MentalMike
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IGF1-r3 long experiences
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Don't dilute it. Just shoot it straight. My body reacts very badly to high BA conc in other gear and I did not have any problems using it undilluted. Also the idea of using water to "flush" the syringe in order to get all of the IGF is BS IMHO. Just make sure you get a small enough syringe (1/2cc works well for me) and push hard on the plunger before pulling the needle out after the injection.
I have never taken anything so good, ever. In 25 days, after a 3 month cycle, I got more from it than the juice. I had vascularity in legs like never before. I ended a good cycle weighing 292 and after igf-1 r3 I weighed 297, but you could see a big difference. I know of 2 other guys who like it just as much. I hear people talking about mixing it. Mine came w/ ba already added. I bought it from a research company in Texas. How long does it last pre-mixed?
MentalMike
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i just picked it up, its already mixed, so that is a good question hammer
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gracias
Anyone else have stories about taking it or have only a few tried it? I just want to see what other people think because I know it's not in my head. In about 3 weeks I am going to do it again and hopefully won't have the stress. Even while throwing up just about once a week and not eating or training the greatest it was still the best 4 weeks of taking anything. This time the stress from 2 different girls won't get to me, cause one is gone. Anyone who has a g/f that changes their mind about things that are major (ex. everytime something goes wrong she wants to move, then she loves it here....then she can't stand being close to parents, then the next day she wants to live by them....and so on) get out while you can! Find someone who knows who's the boss and can deal with it. Girls that get their way, their whole life, w/ everyone are the hardest to deal with. I had to tell someone how I feel right now. lol
BigRonWannabee
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lol, i feel you bro.
notallthere
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New to the board bros, I hope I can contribute as well as learn a bit. I like the layout and seems like a nice place to settle in and share and learn info.
1 I.U. of HGH is equivalent to roughly 4-6 mcg of IGF-1R3.
That means a dosage of 100mcg of IGF-1R3 is equal to 16.25-25 I.U.s of HGH.
That is considerably high by anyone's standards and side effects will most likely be experienced.
Recommended dosages (from what I’ve read and or heard from educated experienced users) are in the range of 40-80mcg a day of IGF divided between morning and evening injections. Remember IGF-1R3 is coupled with IGFBP-3 (IGF binding protein 3) which extends the half life to from about 6 minutes with normal IGF-1 to 8-12 hours with IGF-1R3 so only two injections are actually needed in a 24 hour period.
For those that are wondering what exactly IGFBP-3 is or would like to extend the life of their IGF-1 release via the liver with the use of exogenous HGH injections here is some quick info. Take because it increases the body's IGFBP-3 and will slow the breakdown of the IGF-1 produced indirectly through the use of HGH much like the way IGF-1R3 acts in the body.
To activate IGF-1R3...Since it needs to be in an acidic environment I would use something as simple as acetic acid which is vinegar. Use Distilled Vinegar at a rate of about 1:50 or sterile water or Bacteriostatic water. I recommend filtering the vinegar with a Whatmann filter first to ensure sterility and Bac water instead of sterile water.
Here is an example of how to convert 1mg (1,000 mcg) of IGF-1R3. This will give you an easily measured way of using it. You have 1,000mcg of IGF so mix it up with 5mls of liquid. Remember the 1:50 ratio? You're going to first put 10 IU's or 1/10 ml of your now filtered, distilled vinegar to react the IGF, then put in the remaining 490 IU's or 4.9 ml's of BaW in. You'll have a mixture of 1,000mcg dissolved into 5ml's of acetic-BaW. Each ml is 200mcg of IGF-1R3. I would recommend putting each ml into an individual vial. That way you can leave the remaining vials in the freezer to ensure stability. Put the one vial in the refrigerator and take what ever dosage you need. For instance if you are using 40mcg a day take out 20mcg in the am/pm which would amount to 10 IU's since each (1) I.U is equivalent to 2mcg.
At 40mcg per day a 1mg vial will last you 25 days which is basically the stint of the 4 week cycle. Then take a month off and repeat if desired.
**hopefully this adds a little insight. I definately did for me as I've been researching the topic quite a bit as of late before giving it a whirl.
Notallthere
1 I.U. of HGH is equivalent to roughly 4-6 mcg of IGF-1R3.
That means a dosage of 100mcg of IGF-1R3 is equal to 16.25-25 I.U.s of HGH.
That is considerably high by anyone's standards and side effects will most likely be experienced.
Recommended dosages (from what I’ve read and or heard from educated experienced users) are in the range of 40-80mcg a day of IGF divided between morning and evening injections. Remember IGF-1R3 is coupled with IGFBP-3 (IGF binding protein 3) which extends the half life to from about 6 minutes with normal IGF-1 to 8-12 hours with IGF-1R3 so only two injections are actually needed in a 24 hour period.
For those that are wondering what exactly IGFBP-3 is or would like to extend the life of their IGF-1 release via the liver with the use of exogenous HGH injections here is some quick info. Take because it increases the body's IGFBP-3 and will slow the breakdown of the IGF-1 produced indirectly through the use of HGH much like the way IGF-1R3 acts in the body.
To activate IGF-1R3...Since it needs to be in an acidic environment I would use something as simple as acetic acid which is vinegar. Use Distilled Vinegar at a rate of about 1:50 or sterile water or Bacteriostatic water. I recommend filtering the vinegar with a Whatmann filter first to ensure sterility and Bac water instead of sterile water.
Here is an example of how to convert 1mg (1,000 mcg) of IGF-1R3. This will give you an easily measured way of using it. You have 1,000mcg of IGF so mix it up with 5mls of liquid. Remember the 1:50 ratio? You're going to first put 10 IU's or 1/10 ml of your now filtered, distilled vinegar to react the IGF, then put in the remaining 490 IU's or 4.9 ml's of BaW in. You'll have a mixture of 1,000mcg dissolved into 5ml's of acetic-BaW. Each ml is 200mcg of IGF-1R3. I would recommend putting each ml into an individual vial. That way you can leave the remaining vials in the freezer to ensure stability. Put the one vial in the refrigerator and take what ever dosage you need. For instance if you are using 40mcg a day take out 20mcg in the am/pm which would amount to 10 IU's since each (1) I.U is equivalent to 2mcg.
At 40mcg per day a 1mg vial will last you 25 days which is basically the stint of the 4 week cycle. Then take a month off and repeat if desired.
**hopefully this adds a little insight. I definately did for me as I've been researching the topic quite a bit as of late before giving it a whirl.
Notallthere
notallthere....you're awesome bro! How did you come about comparing to hgh? So someone who takes 16 iu of gh a day would get the same benefits of someone who took 100mcg per day? Also, the research co. told me it lasts 24-30 hours once injected. Do you have studies that show otherwise? All I know is I love it and want to know more.
BigRonWannabee
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How bout if it comes diluted @ 1mg/ml (1000mcg/ml). Can i then simply add 4ml BA to it, resulting in a stable 200mcg/ml solution?
BigRonWannabee
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I also heard a few times that BaW can kill your batch.
notallthere
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DougoeFre5h:
Bac Water will not kill the batch. This is a misconception that is widespread. I don't have experience with already diluted solution so unfortunately I cannot offer any advice with that.
hammer751:
The half life is no more that 12 hours tops! As for the comparison between IGF and GH it has been from studying the topic for a couple months now. There is a lot of info out there and I am continuing to try to sift through everything and determine fact from fiction.
Bac Water will not kill the batch. This is a misconception that is widespread. I don't have experience with already diluted solution so unfortunately I cannot offer any advice with that.
hammer751:
The half life is no more that 12 hours tops! As for the comparison between IGF and GH it has been from studying the topic for a couple months now. There is a lot of info out there and I am continuing to try to sift through everything and determine fact from fiction.
Ken
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yea no need to mix it with any water bro. Just get some small slin pins and pull about 25 mcgs twice daily..
I pulled about 100 mcgs of BW FIRST then pulled another 25 of the IGF.. I liked it like that as I KNEW I was getting it all.. You only get a tiny bit so I wanted to make sure.. I dont care what others think.. if they think its BS then fine, I wanted to get all of my monies worth..
I pulled about 100 mcgs of BW FIRST then pulled another 25 of the IGF.. I liked it like that as I KNEW I was getting it all.. You only get a tiny bit so I wanted to make sure.. I dont care what others think.. if they think its BS then fine, I wanted to get all of my monies worth..
notallthere
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Ken:
How about the stability of the igf? I'm just curious as to your results and methods as I am trying to gather as much info and empirical data as possible.
How about the stability of the igf? I'm just curious as to your results and methods as I am trying to gather as much info and empirical data as possible.
BigRonWannabee
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sounds reasonable enough, thx
Ken
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notallthere said:
Unfortunatley I was only able to run it for 1 week. I was 'chosen' to head a group of guys for some out of town work.. There was no gym, so I was screwed.. I kept it hidden away in my drawer really.. I didnt keep it in the fridge at all..
From the get-go I had some great pumps. Strength was ok but couldnt tell a big difference within that week.
I have since purchased more and will be running it after my Next cycle which starts Mon. I will run 4 weeks of IGF right along my post cycle of Clomid and Unleashed Herbal.. I cant wait Till Mon..
Johny J
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i got mine as a powder, and made it with bacteriostatic water that we radiated. I first added HCL to it though. This was told to me by a bio chemist, as well as the company that sold it to me.
What do you think. how long is it good for. Its been kept at 70 degrees and in the dark.
What do you think. how long is it good for. Its been kept at 70 degrees and in the dark.
notallthere
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Johnny J:
Sounds like you had some sound educated instructions but I would if possible freeze it and keep only what you need immediately refridgerated. Ideally the solution once constituted should be kept a 4 degrees Celsius. I have talked with quite a few bro's that haven't frozen it and they had good results nonetheless though. Ideally to get the optimal results you should def keep it frozen and only have your next 5 to 7 on hand in the fridge.
I don't want you to think that now your stuck with nothing. I am only stating optimal conditions for the substance. I'm sure as more of us "experiment" we will really understand the difference between storing it in or freezer or our sock drawer.
How long are you planning to run it and at how many mcg's?
Notallthere
Sounds like you had some sound educated instructions but I would if possible freeze it and keep only what you need immediately refridgerated. Ideally the solution once constituted should be kept a 4 degrees Celsius. I have talked with quite a few bro's that haven't frozen it and they had good results nonetheless though. Ideally to get the optimal results you should def keep it frozen and only have your next 5 to 7 on hand in the fridge.
I don't want you to think that now your stuck with nothing. I am only stating optimal conditions for the substance. I'm sure as more of us "experiment" we will really understand the difference between storing it in or freezer or our sock drawer.
How long are you planning to run it and at how many mcg's?
Notallthere
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