halfwit
I like turtles.
Thanks for some input, i did the researches. Just need to get more information to convince my self.
What are you researching? Taking dbol for very long periods of time with testosterone, or if it's okay to run it solo?
is dbol 20mg/ed safe?
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What are you researching? Taking dbol for very long periods of time with testosterone, or if it's okay to run it solo?
mightysatchmo
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I did a 40mg a day kickstart a few cycles back for 5 weeks. I split the 40mg up into 4 times a day. Loved / hate for me with dbol. Loved the strength and quick size (watery) but hated the estrogen bomb that it is and how rapidly it all goes away when they kickstart is complete. Had no problems with bloodwork either. Just know your body because your adjusting your AI before, during and after
Telecaster
New member
I'm new on this, just need to know if i take 10 or 20mg dbol ED is ok? am i will get a benefit of it? i know some people goes 30-50mg. My other question is, if i take 10-20mg ED am i still get the side effect include the gyno? do i need take liv52 and clomid if i take 10-20mg? I appreciate for your answer. Thanks.
Telecaster
New member
How long you been using it bro? how do you fight the estrogen bomb? when you finish your cycle is the gyno end too?
Roush
I am banned!
IF you are not top of controlling estrogen by proactively running an AI like arimidex, and having a stronger ai on hand like letro .. then you should not have estrogen or gyno issues to deal with at all in the first place and you'll be just fine running Dbol (provided you run it with exogenous test as your base)
Telecaster
New member
I see, how long until you know you have estrogen/gyno issue? after a week or 2 weeks of dbol cycle? Thanks.
Roush
I am banned!
well the goal is to never 'know' in the first place because you stayed on top of controlling and preventing high E from happening in the first place.
however, if you fail, Dbol is pretty quick . In 5 days your blood pressure will of risen and you'll be holding some water and have a puffy face, high estro has begun.
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halfwit
I like turtles.
I'm still not sure if that means you want to try to pop a pill to become huge, or if this is in conjunction with a proper cycle including testosterone, which we men need to function properly.
If this is to see whether or not you can get by JUST on dbol ALONE, the answer is no. Yes, you would see temporary results, but you not only do risk gyno - but PERMANENT shut down of your ability to make testosterone naturally.
20mg ED by itself just isn't worth the risk in my honest opinion. 30mg WITH a testosterone base (for a second cycle) can most certainly be however.
juced_porkchop
Moderator
if you take this as you say and with not testosterone you will regret it. if you dont know why then read all the stickies (threads that stay stuck up top) in the aas section of this forum.
Telecaster
New member
To run it solo. This is my planning, having dbol says 20mg ED for my first ever cycle 3 weeks. I have liv52 on my hand now but i don't have noval or clomid yet. Would you tell me what do i need for PTC? Is liv52 and buy clomid is enough? Thanks.
Telecaster
New member
I'm still not sure if that means you want to try to pop a pill to become huge, or if this is in conjunction with a proper cycle including testosterone, which we men need to function properly.
If this is to see whether or not you can get by JUST on dbol ALONE, the answer is no. Yes, you would see temporary results, but you not only do risk gyno - but PERMANENT shut down of your ability to make testosterone naturally.
20mg ED by itself just isn't worth the risk in my honest opinion. 30mg WITH a testosterone base (for a second cycle) can most certainly be however.
Sorry i just read your after my last post replied others. Do you mean 30mg with a testosterone base like adding testosterone booster? And PERMANENT shut down? i thought only temporarily and will go back normal after couple weeks/months. Thanks.
Telecaster
New member
Ok thanks, i'll read the stickies post.
Roush
I am banned!
you need to run injectable testosterone with Dbol ,, thats what a 'test base' is . Dbol shuts down your natty test, so you'll have to replace that with injectable test, otherwise , you will become a 'testosterone-less girly man'
oldmusclemike
Well-known member
I've done 50mgs a day. 20 mgs is normal but as said the orals are not good for you.
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Telecaster
New member
Thanks guys for all your answers, its help a lot. Cheers.
halfwit
I like turtles.
Testosterone base means the hormone, NOT some silly "booster" that does nothing but cost you money. Permanent shut down is ALWAYS a risk when using hormones. Be them in a pill, a gel/cream, or a needle.
Telecaster
New member
Too expensive and too complicated for me, i think i'll go with supplement. Thanks anyway
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halfwit
I like turtles.
Too expensive and too complicated for me, i think i'll go with supplement. Thanks anyway
Just not with dbol I hope.
Dbol cycle = dbol + testosterone. No test, no cycle.
Unless you want to find out the hard way that fire is indeed hot.
Telecaster
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Just not with dbol I hope.
Dbol cycle = dbol + testosterone. No test, no cycle.
Unless you want to find out the hard way that fire is indeed hot.
No I'm not
. I been using Ronnie Coleman Whey protein and happy with that. Prob I will add BCAA and Creatine. One more things just curios, what the real happen with you if you get shut down permanently? Thanks.Similar threads
