Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) Really Necessary?

[boydson]

Is HCG Really Necessary?

Hey guys.
Just got a hold of my guy, and it looks like he's out of hCG. :-( I'm running test E for 12 weeks at 600mg/week. Is hCG really really important because I'm sure If I looked hard enough I could get my hands on some just don't really want to deal with all the digging around. I'm using arimidex on cycle and Nolva/clomid post cycle therapy (pct).
Thanks,
Boydson

 

[hard2gain]

Necessary- no Recommended- Yes. I you really can't find any I would just suggest an aggressive PCT.

 

[Zeek]

We used clomid in place of HCG for years while on cycle to maintain testicular size and ease PCT.

I'm not telling you youngsters to forget HCG but if you don't have it clomid will work in it's place at 50mg eod during the cycle.

 

[yamico]

Sorry to get into this thread but i ask my self the same thing. If i am doing a simple cycle of test e @ 500 mg wk is it really necessary?

 

[hard2gain]

We used clomid in place of HCG for years while on cycle to maintain testicular size and ease PCT.

I'm not telling you youngsters to forget HCG but if you don't have it clomid will work in it's place at 50mg eod during the cycle.

This is the first I've ever heard of this? Does it make recovery easier?

 

[BigKevKris]

Never heard of it either......kinda makes sense I guess

 

[OX]

Sorry to get into this thread but i ask my self the same thing. If i am doing a simple cycle of test e @ 500 mg wk is it really necessary?

not during the cycle but I would use it after your last pin but before serm therapy.

HCG is never necessary but if it is beneficial to you and helps recovery then why would you not want to use it?

 

[alexus hensicus]

Everyone's body is different. Last cycle I had testicular atrophy for three days but other than that the size and function was fine even in post cycle therapy (pct). You really have to have some on hand just in case and of you need it you need it if you don't you don't.

 

[Zeek]

This is the first I've ever heard of this? Does it make recovery easier?

Makes recovery easier the same way HCG does in the sense that full sized nuts are going to start producing faster once you stop the juice.

Otherwise post cycle it takes time to bring the balls back to normal and then you have to stimulate them to start firing.

I've used HCG, clomid and in the end they both did what was needed from them.

This is old man trick #47 from my old fart manual of shit not to tell the youngsters

We keep our secrets guarded

 

[essays]

TBH, if you're just doing test E, and your cycle is 12 weeks or less, I would say you can go without. I have numerous times, and I'm sure a lot of other guys have too. Remember: You CAN recover without ANY post cycle therapy (pct) (not that I'd ever recommend that). Clomid + Nolva will make life easier.

I would say you'll be fine with just Clomid + Nolva.

 

[Shovel]

I've never used it, but if I was gonna come off or be a stripper I would use it...

 

[essays]

I've never used it, but if I was gonna come off or be a stripper I would use it...

Bahahahaha why bother man. I'm sure you've seen as much porn as I have. None of those guys have nuts, so why would strippers need em?

 

[UserAt204]

IMO HCG is absolutely necessary. Why would it not be?

I will never understand why guys say "I'm only doing x amount of test so I don't need it".

Yes you can recover without it, but I have recovered plenty of times without a post cycle therapy (pct). The question you should ask"is AAS necessary". To me, functioning and maintaining testicles and HPTA should be a top priority, especially for anyone who is just going to cycle 1-2 times a year or less.

Hcg has many important purposes out side of testicle size, it also helps maintain function, it helps maintain other important steroid hormones like Pregnenolone, which is going to help with well being and proper health. It's going to help speed recovery, it's going to help avoid a difficult hormone crash that can and will happen on even 500mg test.

This is like saying why use test when you can use a test booster from gnc. When it comes time for pct, you are doing everything you can to recover HPTA to help maintain the gains that you worked so hard to gain. You shut down hpta, because it's worth it to make the gains you have, so restarting hpta should be equally important.

It's just my opinion but hcg is one of the best tools we have, suppressed testicles and hpta is the main reason we cycle on and off, and the major concern. If this didn't happen you could run whatever you want to whenever you want. So you now have something very effective and helping this. I don't care what your cycle is, suppression is suppression. It seems that some are worse then others but not really because you are either shut down or not, some compounds linger but hcg is still your best option even if you ran 200mg of test a week.

 

[gymrat827]

longer than 12-14wks yes. makes recovery so much easier. 10wks or less your fine unless you have sky high doses.

 

[IronReps]

Makes recovery easier the same way HCG does in the sense that full sized nuts are going to start producing faster once you stop the juice.

Otherwise post cycle it takes time to bring the balls back to normal and then you have to stimulate them to start firing.

I've used HCG, clomid and in the end they both did what was needed from them.

This is old man trick #47 from my old fart manual of shit not to tell the youngsters

We keep our secrets guarded

Does taking the Clomid while on cycle affect gains at all?

 

[Phatbastard]

Makes recovery easier the same way HCG does in the sense that full sized nuts are going to start producing faster once you stop the juice.

Otherwise post cycle it takes time to bring the balls back to normal and then you have to stimulate them to start firing.

I've used HCG, clomid and in the end they both did what was needed from them.

This is old man trick #47 from my old fart manual of shit not to tell the youngsters

We keep our secrets guarded

Zeek uses POF to stimulate his Nutty's don't let him fool ya

I've never used it, but if I was gonna come off or be a stripper I would use it...

Thats just friggin funny^^^^^

 

[balboa270]

BLAST PHASE PERIOD. fuck during cycle not a must but I like my big balls

 

[WindowCleaner]

HCG is necessary for people who come off steroids if you ask me. First off, when you dont use HCG youre shutdown testicle and HPTA wise. That makes recovering harder. If you use HCG your only shut down via one pathway the HPTA. The HPTA always comes back 3 weeks after the steroid and HCG clears my body according to my blood work. May be even less than that, but I've only checked 3 weeks after. The testes take longer to come back. Even if the HPTA is secreting LH the testes cant respond when they are atrophied.

Second, I have no evidence to back this up but its been claimed when you let the testes atrophy it can permanently damage them which would result in you forever outputting a lower amount of natural test. At the very least you could be secreting lower test for a long time. It may or may not happen that way. So, HCG is too play it safe. Theres a easy way and the hard way, the choice is yours.