tommy_big_guns
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the first one u described are the ones I do... i also do the sumo deads as well for some change..
Keep tension during deadlift? or No?
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Firehawk734
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If I were to do barbell rows pulling the weight to my chest (is this what high rows are?), would that be a good way to get mainly rear delt work in? Im lookin to add an exercise for the rear delts into my shoulder day.
I thank all you veterans for your help in clearing up some of my questions. It seems that it is really preference on whether to tap or set the weight down.
I prefer to set the weight down, just wanna make sure I am working my muscles optimally doing it that way still.
I thank all you veterans for your help in clearing up some of my questions. It seems that it is really preference on whether to tap or set the weight down.
I prefer to set the weight down, just wanna make sure I am working my muscles optimally doing it that way still.
Mudge
Community Veteran
High rows are on a Hammer strength machine but I suppose you could do them freeweight as well. On the machine you can independantly move one arm at a time though, and its more a back movement than rear delt.
Do you do any rear lateral movements? I used to do them on a pec deck machine but now do them with dumbells, 1-2 sets. You can also do them with dumbells, while leaning up against an incline bench if you wish.
Do you do any rear lateral movements? I used to do them on a pec deck machine but now do them with dumbells, 1-2 sets. You can also do them with dumbells, while leaning up against an incline bench if you wish.
tommy_big_guns
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a good finisher for rear delts is high rope pulls do them standing on the top pully...pulling to your chin and out.. really good burn
Firehawk734
Sex Specialist
Mudge, this is my shoulder/trap workout currently:
DB Presses 3x6
Upright Rows 3x6
Reverse Flyes 2x6-8
Side Laterals 2x6
Front Raises 2x6
Shrugs 2-3x6 (Also get worked on deadlift day)
I was thinking that a high pull would be like a barbell bent over row, but the only difference being you would pull more to your throat, as high as you could go, hopefully working your rear delts.
I work out at home, have all free weights, adjustable bench, dip/chin station, lat station. So was thinking just for changing up purposes, throwing in another rear delt exercise.
DB Presses 3x6
Upright Rows 3x6
Reverse Flyes 2x6-8
Side Laterals 2x6
Front Raises 2x6
Shrugs 2-3x6 (Also get worked on deadlift day)
I was thinking that a high pull would be like a barbell bent over row, but the only difference being you would pull more to your throat, as high as you could go, hopefully working your rear delts.
I work out at home, have all free weights, adjustable bench, dip/chin station, lat station. So was thinking just for changing up purposes, throwing in another rear delt exercise.
Firehawk734 said:
no high rpows are where the weight startts off above you head at a 45 degree angle or less and you pull the weigt down and towards you. half way between a pull down and a seated cable row. low row means that the bar is below your hips and you pull upwards. its between a upright row and a seated cable row. has nothing to do with finishing position but rather starting position.
Firehawk734
Sex Specialist
Mudge, do you suggest I back off of them and do maybe only 2 sets? Hey, im not close minded. I would be dumb not to listen to experienced lifters, hence all the questions 
.
And what would be the reasoning? Will I still be getting optimal strength/growth out of my routine as is if I cut back on the uprights?
.And what would be the reasoning? Will I still be getting optimal strength/growth out of my routine as is if I cut back on the uprights?
funny you mention that. i bought some to wear in my new sculpting class. i start this week. maybe i get some footage but it wont be free.
it dont matter if its too small thats the beauty of spandex. i know you seen the large ladies doning it in arobics class at the gym.
i'll fit right in. they prolly wont even notice im there.
it dont matter if its too small thats the beauty of spandex. i know you seen the large ladies doning it in arobics class at the gym.
i'll fit right in. they prolly wont even notice im there.
Mudge
Community Veteran
I just didn't feel that upright rows were a tremendous builder, and like Pullinbig hinted at heavy deads are all some need to hit the traps hard. I feel that I need direct work for EVERYTHING, I do notice something from deads alone under 5 reps, but with my genetics I hit forearms and neck and everything in between directly at some point.
As for shoulders I now am down to zero overhead work, I do incline pressing still and feel that is enough. I still do laterals, rear and front raises, but the shoulders get worked so much with pressing that I think volume needs to be low and I worry more about my shoulders and rotators as I continue to slowly get stronger. Really all you can do is listen to what others do, experiment a little, and eventually you come to something that works for you and this is somewhat trial and error that you go through for years as you continue to fine tune and experiment. Call them changeups if you will, its not all about chasing a perfect routine but keeping things fresh mentally and physically.
If I still did uprights it would probably be a single set as a finisher on my back/traps day. Again though thats just what I arrived at through trial and error, you try something and see how you like it...
As for shoulders I now am down to zero overhead work, I do incline pressing still and feel that is enough. I still do laterals, rear and front raises, but the shoulders get worked so much with pressing that I think volume needs to be low and I worry more about my shoulders and rotators as I continue to slowly get stronger. Really all you can do is listen to what others do, experiment a little, and eventually you come to something that works for you and this is somewhat trial and error that you go through for years as you continue to fine tune and experiment. Call them changeups if you will, its not all about chasing a perfect routine but keeping things fresh mentally and physically.
If I still did uprights it would probably be a single set as a finisher on my back/traps day. Again though thats just what I arrived at through trial and error, you try something and see how you like it...
675 last time i went heavy. to be honest thats not a big pull so thats why i chose the name more as a joke than anything else. I havent pulled heavy in well over a year do to injuries and missd workouts cause onf my wife's health probs.
i rarley pull full pulls anymore because they are so taxing and I get overtrained if i squat in the same week. i normally do racks or GMs. worksets for racks range from 725 to 805 depends on reps.
mudge made a good point about trying some different stuff and see what works for the individual. it changes over time for everyone.
the delt area is fairly small and it will get overtrained easily or injured. shoulder in juroies are very common once you get your bench up in the mid threes or higher. i think most can attest to that in here.
i rarley pull full pulls anymore because they are so taxing and I get overtrained if i squat in the same week. i normally do racks or GMs. worksets for racks range from 725 to 805 depends on reps.
mudge made a good point about trying some different stuff and see what works for the individual. it changes over time for everyone.
the delt area is fairly small and it will get overtrained easily or injured. shoulder in juroies are very common once you get your bench up in the mid threes or higher. i think most can attest to that in here.
Firehawk734
Sex Specialist
Guys,
Thank you for your advice and time. It is not going to waste, trust me. I appreciate it.
I am trying to develop that ability to listen to my body. Like I said, ive only been training 1 year straight, but I like to think im coming along alright.
Thanks again.
Thank you for your advice and time. It is not going to waste, trust me. I appreciate it.
I am trying to develop that ability to listen to my body. Like I said, ive only been training 1 year straight, but I like to think im coming along alright.
Thanks again.
