Lean on Me - 1st Cycle Journal

[leanbody]

thats the issue... there is no way to tell

the only thing you can really do is trial and error... use adex first, if that clears it up, then its estro, if not then it COULD be progesterone in which case you would have to use Caber

Hey Dude;
MDS - you are full of good advice and clearly have experience - so thanks for all the help and yor patience with my piggheadedness. I decided to pack up the Deca in my sock drawer for next spring and just do the test and Dbol - I've already completed 10 days of d-bol and was only planning a 28 day run. Or do you think I should pack that up too - I haven't really felt any dramatic "kickstart" yet although my workouts have been good. So I wouldn't be heart broken to pack that up too. Ur opinion?

So to follow up - haven't taken Deca for 5 days - still have nice pink nips - should I take the nolva I have or get some adex (prolly 2 -3 weeks out)?

Thanks

 

[TheMilkMan]

Hey Dude;
MDS - you are full of good advice and clearly have experience - so thanks for all the help and yor patience with my piggheadedness. I decided to pack up the Deca in my sock drawer for next spring and just do the test and Dbol - I've already completed 10 days of d-bol and was only planning a 28 day run. Or do you think I should pack that up too - I haven't really felt any dramatic "kickstart" yet although my workouts have been good. So I wouldn't be heart broken to pack that up too. Ur opinion?

So to follow up - haven't taken Deca for 5 days - still have nice pink nips - should I take the nolva I have or get some adex (prolly 2 -3 weeks out)?

Thanks

the only reason that I would say you can run Test/DBol is because you will use both Adex and Nolva if you have estro related sides, so I would say you can stick with that

if you don't have any adex, I would recommend you get some immediately... I will PM you about that

don't start any Nolva until the Deca is completely out of your system just in case it is progesterone related

 

[leanbody]

MONDAY - 10 days into it.

THE BULK REPORT

Start 185 today 194​

(good gains - pants still fit so it's not all around my waist)

Feelin great these days - lots of energy and really enjoying my workouts. i think I could push myself a bit more - the fine line between soreness and pain. Apparently had a great leg day last Thurs since i am still sore from it! Today was chest.

Wide grip pull ups 6,4,4,5,4,3
Dips 10,12,15,12,12,10

Supersets
Hammer strength decline bench press 4 sets 10 x 140
Wide grip cable pulldown 15 x 120, 2sets 10 x 150 10 x 160

Hammer strength flat bench press 4 sets 10 x 130
Seated cable row 4 sets 10 x 110
One arm rows 4 sets 10 x 50

Hammer strength incline bench press 4 sets 10 x 110
Tbar row 4 sets 10 x 70​

I've been at 3300 to 3700 cals a day - almost a clean 1/3 split every day maybe weighted a bit more on the carbs like 37-39%. Trying to get the complex carbs like sweet potatoes and brn rice - occaisionally fruit - strawberries, pears, etc.

 

[leanbody]

The Nipple Report

Hey Dudes - Weall looks like a bit of gyno from my perspective - nothing new to alot of you but definately a surprise reaction for me. - they are pink and quite handsome - about twice normal size and like little rocks.

I haven't had this much interest in changes in my body since puberty! So i have retired the deca and am going to add some adex this week to get those dudes down before some baby asks me to breast feed! Apart from that i am enjoying the cyle - great energy - feeling stronger - today i hit a PB - bi curls with 40# and skull crushers w/ 90#- if that doesn't pump the ego - nothing will.

IN summary - Monday was Shoulder& back - excellent w/o
Today bi's & tris - great workout.


other body changes - I am sweating like a son of a bit*ch - very impressive in the gym - I could be lifting 2# and with the sweat coming off me I would look way brolic. I also seem to be a bit short of breathe - did a 30 min cardio today - fast walk pace - heart BPM was at 160 - it's usually around 135 for the same.

My cal intake is still around 3500 - weight is up to 196. I measured my BF today - was a little disappointed that it was 15.7% - I think I was a little lower before my mexican "all u can eat" vacation on the beach. Altogether not bad - I was at 21% 2 yrs ago and 17% in April so i'm headed in the right direction.

Can't wait for the Adex to arrive - I had a dream (nightmare?) that i woke up with breasts! - and they weren't all nice and round like in GETFITDOC's avitar! hahaha I said to my wife a few years ago "I don't know how women can stand to have breasts. If I had them I'd play with them all the time! - Now with the choice - don't want to head in that direction...


I have to say this is a pretty damned interested experience.

Later dudes!

 

[TheMilkMan]

when the adex comes in, just run it at .5mg/day for a couple days and you should see some serious improvement so long as its estro related

 

[leanbody]

It's a rest day for me so I did some cardio and calves and hit the showers. My nips are still the only cause of concern - tender and pointy but not getting any bigger thank god.

Apart from that all's good - low energy, little sleep last night and i think I'm coming down with a cold that my kids brought home from school. Have to wait & see.

 

[JayC]

So what all are you currently on/still taking??? Doses??

 

[leanbody]

So what all are you currently on/still taking??? Doses??

Hey Jay
I am taking
50 mg of d-bol in 4 tiny portions a day
250 of Test C Depot twice a week

I took 2 injections of Deca 250 each about 12 and 7 days ago.

I started taking Animal Pak/Stack - Vits, arginine, caffeine, etc. but was too wired w/ that so dropped it about 5 days into it. i will prolly pick that up again at some point, but there were too may variables for me to tell what was doing what.

Got Adex (Anastrozole) today .5mg ea day

Nipps are stable at this point but sore to touch - certainly wont be any fun for my wife (or me for that matter. (un?) fortunately we both have colds ATM so we're not in the moood for doin the wild thang.

Thanks for reading!
Later

 

[JayC]

So you stopped the deca and the gyno started to clear, right?? Looks like your probably very sensitive to progest.'s.. I steer clear then. Nothing wrong with continuing on with dbol and Test.. doses look good!

 

[mcchunter]

lb

hope you continue this thread. this is the funniest shit ive read in a while.
you should be starting to feel the dbol kick in by now.
and throw some freakin weight on those bars.

good luck to you and i hope for the best for you.

 

[leanbody]

So you stopped the deca and the gyno started to clear, right?? Looks like your probably very sensitive to progest.'s.. I steer clear then. Nothing wrong with continuing on with dbol and Test.. doses look good!

Not exactly - I stopped the deca and it got alittle worse and now has been stable - no changes for about 5 days. i think the DECA is still in my system from 7 days ago - but it may be the test too. Dumbshit that I am I didcided to do both figuring "oh that will never happen to me..." This is why I did badly in Chemistry class in HS - I would change all the variables - it would smoke & turn green and the prof would say how did you do that? "Uhhhhh dunno." i am however a very good cook and I never measure anything and never follow a recipe. Hahaha

 

[leanbody]

hope you continue this thread. this is the funniest shit ive read in a while.
you should be starting to feel the dbol kick in by now.
and throw some freakin weight on those bars.

good luck to you and i hope for the best for you.

Thanks buddy - it is pretty funny - if you can't laff at yourself then who can - wait that's fucked up too - I know ther's a cliche in here somewhere - "No Pain, No Cane" - wait that's for the blind guys....

 

[getfitdoc]

nothing like a human science project.

hope that gyno clears bro.

u feel stronger?

 

[leanbody]

News Flash - Test Works!

Dudes!!! i feel like shit 'cause I have a cold (3 days into it!) but I went to the gym today and whoa - The test kicked in!


i'm so stoked - I had an awsome workout - hit a bunch of pb's and felt super strong! Most excellent. I was careful to keep good form and not do anything stoopid to injure myself but shit - I haven't felt this strong in 15 yrs! My endurance sucks ATM - i think because of the cold (I ran a bit this afternoon & got winded) but hey this is cool.

Also pinned my right glute -did well looking in the mirror - didn't hurt at all altho I found it hard to pump it in - maybe it was the angle. So now I hve 4 spots I feel comfortable rotating - quads and glutes.

THE WORKOUT:
I know alotta u bros will lift this before breakfast with one arm tied behind your back...but i was pretty pleased w/ today's iron. Many were PB's - I think - at least thery were PB's from the last 15 years - can't remember before that if I ever exceeded these.

incline(almost Flat 3%) DBBP
20x40;10x65;10x75;3x85 (PB)10x65
HammerStrength Incline BP
10x140;10x230;8x260;6x300(PB);4x300(PB)
Incline BP
10x135;5x175;5x175
Cable flyes
15x55;15x65;12x75(PB);6x85(PB)
1 arm rows
10x60;10x70(PB);10x70(PB)
Cable pulldowns
10x130;10x150;8x170
Hammerstrength Iso Lateral high Row
10x230;10x230;7x150(PB, but sloppy)9x230
Tbar row
10x70;10x95(PB);10x95(PB);9x95(PB)

So I am guessing the test is working! Only other thing I did different this am was a double espresso and a CMI NO3-overload drink - which seems to be mostly caffine and bitter orange extract. I'm pretty stoked. QWeight was down a bit 195 from 198 earlier in the week - lost my appetite w/ the cold.


Okay buds - that's it 14 days into it!

later

 

[leanbody]

Guys; here are some pics about 2 weeks ago. Iknow, many of you will say I bear a remarkable resemblance to Arnold - it's not true.

Anyways - appreciate any comments/ suggestions, got a lot to work on.

And BTW - Nipple thing seems to be almost gone - hardly any sensitivity there now.

 

[leanbody]

Okay guys so nobody commented on the pics - clearly intimidated by my massive physique - not to worry, I won't take it personally...Hahahaha

Okay so it's sunday and yes i still have the superhuman strength that came out yesterday. Had a great leg w/o - trying to get back into squats after taking a long time off from them fo fear of back injury. So i'm trying to not be a jerk and go into the gym as Mr. test man and pull a muscle - but still feels great to have some extra power coming from reserve. For you younger guys it may not be quite such a revelation, but my test production has been on the decline (while still "normal") for some years now. So it's kinda nice to walk into the gym and find the beast within...;-)

Squats
15 x 115;10x135;10x165;8x205(PB)

leg extensions
15 x 100;10x130;8x160;8x190;3x210(PB)

Hammer strength leg press(did this just cause i can go so low on it)
4 sets med/heavy weight (didn't write it down)

seated leg press
15x 180;12x270;12x360;8x450 (PB)

ham curls
12 x 100;10 x 130;10x130

ab crunch machine weird-ass new machine w/ 3 pivot points but seems to do the trick - I'll see tomorrow if I feelit.
3 sets of 10

one arm cable pulls - obliques
15 x 110;12x130;12x150;12x150(PB)

Hanging leg lifts
10 bw;10bw+20; 10 BW+25#

Later Dudes - thanks for reading.

 

[JayC]

Bro, in all honesty your pic's look fine and you have a great place to start but you really need to put more weight into your routine. Seriously consider switching to the 5x5 routine!! Since your running test, take advantage and run a program that will put some size/LBM on you..
What's your total cals and macro's look like???

 

[leanbody]

Bro, in all honesty your pic's look fine and you have a great place to start but you really need to put more weight into your routine. Seriously consider switching to the 5x5 routine!! Since your running test, take advantage and run a program that will put some size/LBM on you..
What's your total cals and macro's look like???

Hey Jay;
Good suggestion - thanks. i am up to 3200 cals a day and i definately want to put on some size. What are 5x5's - 5sets w 5reps max weight? thanks bro!
Macros are

 

[leanbody]

Monday Mornin

Ok Brothas here's the scoop for today

Got my diet laid out yesterday - shit - don't know if I can eat that many chiken boobs in one day! I am going for 3100 cals a day going to split it into protein/fat and protein carb meals. No fats & carbs together - this will be my explanation for when I'm on TV and have "ABs of Steel"

Little bit of a sore butt where i pinned on Sat - but nothing really noteworthy. Nipps are stable but still look like they do when i am skiing - little hard bullets - i guess the test is like viagra for the nipps! Anyways no big deal there still taking the Adex - may switch out to Letro if I can find some. i also have nolva available - any opinins?

Weighed in at 198 today - feelin good - pants still fit so i am thinking that it is not collecting as fat around my waist - must be a lot of water too tho. Can still see my abs but my arms are quite smooth.

Strength is great - going to take advantage of that while I can! (Still taking 50mg of d-bol ED)



WORKOUT
killed my traps & shoulders this mornin - hope to shock them into some growth!
Seated Military press @ squat rack
17x65;16x65;12x85;5x105(PB);4x105(PB)

DB military press
12 x 35;10x35;10x30;9x30;6x30

Supersets:
Hammer Strength incline military press
6sets 12 x 90
w/
Hammer strength overhead press
6 sets 12 x 100

Supersets:
Lat Flyes
6 sets 12 x 10lb
w/
Tri Cable pushdown
15x90;15x110;12x120(PB);15x150(PB);15x150(PB) Killed this w/Perfect form!
w/
Incline tri kickbacks
6 sets 10x10lbs

My tris never wore out this set - amazing - hope i get some good out of that workout; Traps were wicked tight - took IBprophen afterwards to avoid a stiff neck.

Later Bros!

 

[leanbody]

Tuesday - Day 17

Yo dudes;
Had an abbreviated but killer w/o this am

WORKOUT
Focus on chest & Back. (Nice little kick in the ass from JayC yesterday - thanks bud - so am trying to do a 5x5 workout and go heavy at least 3 days a week)

Standing Calf raises (haven't done these in a wile - hard to see progress there so I did the whole stack and held some DBs at my sides.)
20 x 350;12 x 495;10x545;8x565;5x565;12 x405

Clean & Jerk(wasn't going to do these - just Romanin DL's but it felt good to get the stretch)
15 x 45;10x65;10x85;4x85

Incline pullup@Smith rack
4sets of 8-10

Incline DB press
15 x 60;10x75;5x85;6x80;3x80

Hammer strength flat chest press
15 x60;8x80;6x90;5x100;4x100* weight per side so 2x = total

Cable Flyes (these felt great - got a terrific pump and my face turned totally red - looked like it was going to explode - have to get a shot of that for the Christmas card...LOL)
20x65;12x75;10x85;8x85;15x65

General notes for any other old dudes thinking of stepping across to the dark side:

Feeling great - 17 days into this cycle. lots of energy, strength, etc. All this in spite of having a nasty cold.
Recovery time seems to be cut in half or 1/3 (U may not experience this if you are younger than me- but I think it's a miracle - my traps were TOTALLY fried yesterday after my shoulder w/o and today ....100% recovery!) i am even thinking about working out twice a day if i can fit it in - (Hope my wife understands "Gee honey I decided to work out today instead of earning a living..." self employed....Hahahaha - not likely.)
Love feeling younger - some of the benefits: I have acne & oily skin again - Din't realize how much I missed this (not).
Increased libido and Ahem ....how to put this...morning wood.
No hair loss evident(I'm a hairy bastard up top - don't think I could even notice)

Mipps still a little wierd - doing the ADEX 50mgED but they are still pointy and sensitive - doesn't really bother me but I do wonder if it will lead to anything else in my pecs...sounds perv but I've been "feelin them up" - no sign of any little titties so i guess all is well. i imagine the nipps will retreat once i stop the Test.
weight gain has been consistant even tho some days I don't hit my 3100 cal mark - I'm up to 199.7lbs today- last time i tipped the scales at 200 i was wearing a size 36 pant! - I'm still in my 33's although the pants are fitting tighter around my glutes so i have taken to carrying my wallet, phone, keys etc outside (had to buy a "messenger bag" aka man purse, cause my lunch is so damned big - anyone see that Seinfeld episode...Hahaha.)

Going to increase my cardio this week (rather add in my cardio - dropped it about a week ago.)

Later brothas - thanks for reading