Log 2006
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ManOfMuscle
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I don't know why I had never read this one before, but jesus what a monster cycle. Do you ever come off? And what is furazabol?
LiftTillIDie said:
No set date to come off yet but taking 500iu's HCG every 5th day since the beginning of the cycle.
LiftTillIDie said:
The only credible information I have found on Furazabol (miotolan) come from Big Cat (see below). However, I disagree with the theory that it behaves exactly as winstrol.
Case in point: I have had an extremely low carb and fat diet for nearly 14 days now. I took 100mg of furazabol along with 40mcg of clen, protein powder and orange juice 60 minutes prior to my workout today as I have been for 2 weeks now.
Result: Under such a diet most people would find their strength much lower than before. Not true, I was doing bent over barbell rows with 315lbs x 10 x 3 and dumbell lawnmower pulls with 125's x 8 x 3 (biggest dumbells in my gym).
Conclusion: I find furazabol to have the drying out effect of winstrol combined with the dramatic strength increase of anavar.
By: Big Cat
Miotolan
Pharmaceutical Name: Furazabol
Chemical structure: 17-alpha-methyl-5-alpha-androsta-2,3-furazan,17b-ol
Molecular weight of base: 330.4692
Effective dose: 20-50 mg/day
Average Street-price: $0.25-0.40 for a 1 mg tab
Available Doses: 1 mg tabs
Brands & Products:
Daiichi Seiyaku Miotolan (Japan) 1 mg tabs
Characteristics:
Furazabol reminds us of Stanozolol (Winstrol) strucrurally. Its similar in appearance in that it's a DHT molecule with a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral availability, and has no 3-keto group, needed for androgenic binding. But instead of a 2,3-pyrazol group, furazabol has a 2,3-furazan group. The difference may not be all that big, both groups contain 2 nitrogen atoms and 2 double bonds and both are present instead of the 3-keto group. The advantage is that its not readily deactivated and therefore whatever influences it has, they are consistent. The downside is that the lack of a 3-keto group, which will impair its overall androgenic potency. So in that aspect again comparable to stanozolol. Anabolics 2002, without a doubt the best reference guide for steroids in print, lists Furazabol as extremely androgenic however, which is no doubt just an oversight. In nearly every way the behaviour of furazabol would be identical to that of Stanozolol.
It's an obscure steroid, that's the least we can say. Its only manufactured in Japan and in tabs of 1 mg. Low availability makes the cost of this steroid rather high, and its not particularly easy to find. Perhaps a tad more potent than Stanozolol, the doses used lay in the same neighbourhood, 20-50 mg/day. The higher doses being the preference. The demand for it isn't very high either, because Winstrol/Stromba is a popular and cheap to come by. The only benefit of its obscurity is that noone will invest in faking it. So if you do come across Furazabol, you have pretty good odds that the stuff is legit.
Now, the literature does not make a whole lot of mention of furazabol, but from what I was able to find1, it supports the weak nature of the steroid. In one case it was found that furazabol was a good treatment for hyperlipemia, and this without affecting proteinuria (the prevention of excretion of amino acids, where one would expect a steroid to increase proteinuria and not effect hyperlipemia). The low androgen binding may explain the lack of effect it had on proteinuria. The doses used were considerably high though, at least for furazabol. 1.1 mg/kg/day. That means a 200 lb bodybuilder would be using around 90-100 mg/day
Furazabol can be considered a relatively light steroid therefore. It is not estrogenic in anyway, on account of its dihydro structure and its lack of estrogenic action and low androgenic binding make it have fairly little influence on the body's own testosterone production. Much like Winstrol (stanozolol) and Anavar (oxandrolone). In the long run suppression will occur of course, but because it occurs much slower a user will suffer less from testicular atrophy and therefore bounce back easier when a cycle is concluded. There is a slim chance of androgenic risk, as with Winstrol, but its not frequent or severe. So acne, increased body and facial hair and even an aggravation of male pattern hair loss can occur, but it's a lot less likely than with more androgenic specimen.
Stacking and Use:
Furazabol is a 17-alpha-alkylated steroid, and therefore has a level of hepatoxicity. In the interest of protecting your liver, you should not extend use beyond 6-8 weeks maximum. It's a mild steroid with no estrogenic activity, so logically its best used when cutting in stacks with Equipoise (boldenone undecylenate), Finaplix (trenbolone acetate) or Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) and the needed fat-burners of course. Unlike most steroids, this drug has a relatively short half-life2 however. It compensates with quite long activity (15-33% excretion of unchanged metabolites after 24 hours) so a single dose should be enough to get you through the day. But on account of the low half-life time, you may want to consider splitting doses in two each day.
Because it doesn't aromatize and doesn't have a strong androgenic component, the use of ancillary drugs is limited. The use of Clomid or Nolvadex after a cycle is certainly advised, though the merit may be rather limited. There is no need for anti-estrogens or blood pressure medication during the cycle.
References
1 Suzuki Y, Honda Y, Ito M. Pharmacological studies on experimental nephritic rats. (4) Improvement of hyperlipemic models in rats utilizing anti-rat kidney rabbit serum and effects of anti-hyperlipemic agents on serum lipid levels. Jpn J Pharmacol 1978 Oct;28(5):729-38
2 Kim T, Suh JW, Ryu JC, Chung BC, Park J. Excretion study of furazabol, an anabolic steroid, in human urine. J Chromatogr B Biomed Appl 1996 Dec 6;687(1):79-83
ManOfMuscle
Death Dealer
I would say Bigcat's analysis seems pretty accurate as many people use winstrol to help keep their strength up while cutting. For some people Anavar (var) and Winstrol (winny) are prettymuh interchangeable. You may not have expereince this strength from Winstrol (winny) though.
June 3: Have been dieting pretty hard. That for me means my diet consists almost completely of lots of protein and fresh, uncooked vegetables. The dieting sucks, but the results are worth it. My strength is still high, but I am doing more reps (8-10) vs the low reps (6) I am accustommed to.
The combination of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) I am using really bring out the hardness and striations.
Weight: 96.5kg (212.3lbs)
The combination of Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) I am using really bring out the hardness and striations.
Weight: 96.5kg (212.3lbs)
June 24: After a layoff of 10 days due to my schedule and a bout with food poisoning from eating raw beef (yes, I eat raw beef and fish...Korean food), i am back in the gym.
I have started turinabol instead of miotolan at 100mg ed combined with 1g test e, .5g masterone e and .5g tren e. I'm not holding any water now...or very little. I cut out the exemestane as I didn't need it any more.
Weight: 96.5kg
I have started turinabol instead of miotolan at 100mg ed combined with 1g test e, .5g masterone e and .5g tren e. I'm not holding any water now...or very little. I cut out the exemestane as I didn't need it any more.
Weight: 96.5kg
bigggdoggg
New member
wheres the pics
Tough Old Man
New member
Awsome cycles my friend
July 22: Have switched back to a pure bulker. 1g test e, 1.2g deca ew and 90mg dbol ed. training heavey and eating everything in sight. Will start slin again today (subq).
I was off for a couple of weeks due to family commitments.
The tren was giving me some serious acne on my forearms, shins, back and chest so I stopped it.
Weight: 99kg (218lbs) 5'9"
I was off for a couple of weeks due to family commitments.
The tren was giving me some serious acne on my forearms, shins, back and chest so I stopped it.
Weight: 99kg (218lbs) 5'9"
PCT 2006
After a very heavy 7 month cycle, here's my PCT.
Sept 1 start
Day 1-20 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu’s/ed
Day 1-75 Arimidex .5mg/ed
Day 1-180 Vitamin E 1000mg/ed
Day 21-51 Clomiphene Citrate 100mg/ed
Day 21-60 Tamoxifen 20mg/ed
Day 1-180 HGH 4iu’s/ed (2iu’s x twice/day) 5 on/2 off
Day 1-180 T4 50mcg/ed
Month 1, 3 and 5 Insulin (H-R) 5iu's ed
After a very heavy 7 month cycle, here's my PCT.
Sept 1 start
Day 1-20 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu’s/ed
Day 1-75 Arimidex .5mg/ed
Day 1-180 Vitamin E 1000mg/ed
Day 21-51 Clomiphene Citrate 100mg/ed
Day 21-60 Tamoxifen 20mg/ed
Day 1-180 HGH 4iu’s/ed (2iu’s x twice/day) 5 on/2 off
Day 1-180 T4 50mcg/ed
Month 1, 3 and 5 Insulin (H-R) 5iu's ed
16 days into my post cycle therapy (pct), my weight has gone up 1.5kg.
This post cycle therapy (pct) combo is the best I have ever used. My strength levels have not dropped at all, and my appetite is high as usual.
I feel charged most of the day.
The only negative side so far is the return of shoulder pain due to less water retention...no more deca in there but I'll manage. Though, I can see a lot more striations in the mirror.
The 5 on 2 off HGH allows me to handle the sides well.
PEG still tastes like shite.
This post cycle therapy (pct) combo is the best I have ever used. My strength levels have not dropped at all, and my appetite is high as usual.
I feel charged most of the day.
The only negative side so far is the return of shoulder pain due to less water retention...no more deca in there but I'll manage. Though, I can see a lot more striations in the mirror.
The 5 on 2 off HGH allows me to handle the sides well.
PEG still tastes like shite.
