Low Energy & Sudden Increase in Flabbiness

[FRITZTHEBADASSCAT]

47yo 210lbs on TRT since July 2013. I'm seasoned in the gym, never cycled, and not lean nor fat. I have been described as "built".

At first protocol was 300/wk tcyp once a week with no AI or HCG. Started to get informed through these boards and started with IMT about 3 months ago. Since then protocol is 100tcyp e3.5 days and hcg 250iu the day before tcyp, but still no ADEX since no obvious symptoms. I just started 500iu of methlycobalamin e3.5days (same day as tcyp)

At this time I am going have BW done to see where I am at, but over the last 3 weeks that energized feeling has since subsided as well as the good gym pumps. Over the last two weeks I have been tired by the end of the day and sometimes have a complete energy crash. Additionally, I feel as I am getting flabby without any real change in my diet.

I will hold until my BW comes back to take action, but I am thinking it has something to do with my E2 levels and the fact that I don't take an AI.

Thanks in advance for the feedback.

 

[Alpin]

I used injectable methylcobalamin too. Curious as to why the HCG the day before the T shot ?
so you are on HCG 250 i.u. E3.5 D ?
total of 500 i.u. a week ?

 

[FRITZTHEBADASSCAT]

I was advised by IMT HCG on sun/wed and I do the T on mon/fri.
I edited my post as there was an error (I do tcyp 100 on mon eve and 100 on fri morn).
Thanks and curious to see your reply on the hcg.

 

[jomamma007]

you need blood work. Pretty simple. Don't start any ai's till you have your results.

 

[Alpin]

I was advised by IMT HCG on sun/wed and I do the T on mon/fri.
I edited my post as there was an error (I do tcyp 100 on mon eve and 100 on fri morn).
Thanks and curious to see your reply on the hcg.

I was told 400 iu. EOD by TRT doc....he never said anything about taking it before or after T shot

 

[Brunodk]

I take my hcg the day before my T as well. I believe it helps smooth the peaks and troughs by spacing it out. Probably more of a factor for those doing weekly injections as opposed to every 3.5 days, but I still do the day before method with my hcg when injecting T every 3.5 days. .

 

[Alpin]

I take my hcg the day before my T as well. I believe it helps smooth the peaks and troughs by spacing it out. Probably more of a factor for those doing weekly injections as opposed to every 3.5 days, but I still do the day before method with my hcg when injecting T every 3.5 days. .

I did my HCG day after T shot this week...is this ass backwards ?
T on Tuesday 80 mg and HCG Wednesday. T again on Friday at 80 mg and HCG on Saturday (today).
so the dosing of HCG is E3D. I heard the usual dose of HCG is not even recognized by the body after a while. don't know the certainty of this.

 

[Alpin]

I take my hcg the day before my T as well. I believe it helps smooth the peaks and troughs by spacing it out. Probably more of a factor for those doing weekly injections as opposed to every 3.5 days, but I still do the day before method with my hcg when injecting T every 3.5 days. .

How much you shooting the 2 days per week for HCG ?

 

[Brunodk]

I take 300iu twice a week. My guess is on a 3.5 day schedule there isn't a huge difference between taking it T-1 or T+1.

 

[FRITZTHEBADASSCAT]

How does high e2 lead to low energy; what is happening physiologically?

 

[reporich]

High e2 has many symptoms including low energy.

 

[Mprtz]

The flabbiness could be water retention from high E2.

 

[FRITZTHEBADASSCAT]

you need blood work. Pretty simple. Don't start any ai's till you have your results.

As I mentioned in my original post, no action will be taken until BW is known. With that said, I recently added methlycobalamin to my protocol and I was advised by IMT that it has AI qualities. BW results are useful only when there is stability in TRT protocol and I would like to determine how long I should wait to do BW as I only just added methlycobalamin to my protocol a week ago. Thanks again!.

 

[FRITZTHEBADASSCAT]

I was told 400 iu. EOD by TRT doc....he never said anything about taking it before or after T shot

Can IMT staff chime in on this matter?