Measuring band strength???

02gixxersix

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I can't find any real way to measure band strength on the bar at different points in the lift. I would assume that at some point someone measured it with varying setups. Like for instance today I box squatted 315 with an iron woody small band looped once around the bottle of the rack. I just want to know what that equates to at the bottom and the top.
 
Actually sitting here I just figured out a way to find out if anyone was wondering and hadn't been able to figure it out. I can just measure it by attaching a dumbell at my starting height and the lowest point I get to and the rest of the range will of course be in between. I really need to do more thinkin before I start posting lol.
 
Bands are meant to be hung singe choked from a 7ft rack for rev bands with exeption to the mini's.

Otherwise they are choked together, run under the bench and attached to each side of the bar. WSBB has a banch that is specifically set up for band work and has a difernt attachment method.

BAnd tension is measured at the bottome in rev bands and at the top with standrd band work. I have measured rev bands with a scale and a set of boards. (I think 5) with a scale on top and found the bands to be withinin a ten pound margin of their advertised band tension.

Minis are meant to be double choked around a pin set so that at lockout they are not holding aything. Ideally with any rev band setup they should go slack at the very top.
 
For swuats I run them around the bottom then through themselves and around the clip. For benching I have been running them through themselves twice. I guess that is what you mean by singe choked?? I still can't really figure out a way to use them for deadlifts without buying the platform as there is no tension at the lowest position.
 
What did you use to hold the bands?? And what did you use, I mean the base and also how did you design it so the band tension wouldn't rip it apart?
 
roccodart440 said:
Deadlift in the cage.
i do but I can't figure out a way to get the bands to provide tension from the bottom of the lift. I'll have to go in there one day a little early and think something up.........Also can't figure out how to lift off a reverse grip bench so i have some thinkin to do lol.
 
Tension Values of Jump-Stretch bands with different cinching and anchoring systems

taken from: http://www.elitefts.com/articles/article-faq/default.asp


"Slack" measures distance from nearest part of anchor to end of band held to furthest length.

"Single-cinch" means one end or loop fed through another loop around an anchor.

"Double-cinched" means one loop feed through other loop twice around anchor. Third option is self-explanatory.

"Double-looped" refers to draping band over bar so that the two loops of each band are used as a single suspension point.

The measures after the slack tell you how much extra stretch from the slack point (=0) the poundage gives you . . . i.e. if 45 lbs stretches a band 4" then 45 lbs of pressure will stretch it 4". In the case of the double-looped anchoring the use of four loops to hold the barbell took up enough band so that the bottom of the barbell was actually one inch higher than the bands hanging slack - hence the "-1.0" for the 45 lb measure.

The bands were looped around the outside of the barbell collar in every case. I assume that you would place weights on the outside of the band as you add them.

Strong Bands - (single-cinched)
Slack = 33.0"
w/ 45 bb = 1.5"
w/ 135 = 15.25"
185 = 27.5"

Strong Bands - (double cinched)
Slack = 27"
w/ 45 bb = 1.5"
w/ 135 = 12.5"
185 = 22.5"
205 = 28"

Strong Bands - (single-cinched around two dumbbells)
Slack = 19"
w/ 45 bb =2.75"
w/ 135 = 12.75"
185 = 21.0"
205 = 24.0"
235 = 30.0"

Strong Bands - (double looped)
Slack = 18"
w/ 45 bb = -1" (less than slack)
w/ 135 = 2"
185 = 4"
205 = 5.25"
235 = 6.5"

Average Bands - (single-cinched)
Slack = 32.5"
w/ 45 bb = 3.0"
95 = 15.0"
115 = 21.5"
125 = 25.0"
w/ 135 = 28.5"

Average Bands - (double cinched)
Slack = 25.0"
w/ 45 bb = 2.75"
95 = 11.5"
115 = 17.75"
125 = 22.5"
w/ 135 = 23.5"

Average Bands - (single-cinched around two dumbbells)
Slack = 18.5"
w/ 45 bb = 2.25"
w/ 135 = 16.5"
185 = 28.5"
205 = 34.5"
235 = 41.5"

Average Bands - (double looped)
Slack = 18"
w/ 45 bb = -1.0 (less than slack)
w/ 135 =2"
185 = 5.5"
205 = 7.25"
235 = 10"

Light Bands - (single-cinched)
Slack = 35"
w/ 45 bb = 7.0"
65 = 13.75"
85 = 22.5"
95 = 28.25"

Light Bands - (double cinched)
Slack = 29.5"
w/ 45 bb = 5"
65 = 10.5"
85 = 17.5"
95 = 22.5"
105 = 26.75"

Light Bands - (single-cinched around two dumbbells)
Slack = 20.5"
w/ 45 bb = 6.0"
95 = 20"
w/ 135 = 32.5"

Light Bands - (double looped)
Slack = 18"
w/ 45 bb = -0.5 (less than slack value)
w/ 135 = 5.0"
185 = 11.5"
235 = 19.5"

I also measured the minis -double-looped
Slack = 18.5"
45 = 3.75"
65 = 8.25"
85 = 14.0"
95 = 18.5"

I have learned that a heavily-used (for over a year) mini-band will stretch 50% more than its new counterpart. i.e. 95 pounds will stretch 27" instead of 18.5"

Band tension for the squat and bench press

Here are the approximate tensions that each band provides when choked underneath a 3x3 base. The top tension was measured at about 50” from the top of the base to the barbell and the bottom tension was a little less than 40”.

Band – Top/Bottom
Strong – 235/185
Average - 190/135
Light - 115/95

To set up the mini-bands, place one end of the band around the sleeve of the bar, run the other end around the base of the power rack or dumbbell handle and pull it back onto the sleeve of the bar. This will ensure that there is tension at the bottom of the bench press. In order to add more tension, adding a 2x4 to the base or wrapping the mini-band around the handles of two dumbbells can widen the base. Make sure that the dumbbells are heavy enough that they do not move while the bands are at their maximum tension. Remember that the set-up for the bench press is different than the squat. Both ends of the mini-band are around the sleeve of the bar. The tension is approximately 90lbs at the top and 40lbs at the bottom. This is approximate and will vary from lifter to lifter.

 
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