members who post information about ordering or receiving steroids should be banned.

[bigbodymingle]

Are you guys seriously kidding me?.. If LE sees a post that makes you look like your either recieving steroids over internet or possessing them they can find out exactly where you live, your name, and everything about you.. Im not talking about only on the public board.. but I know especially in pm's sources are discussed alot.. I probably get 3-4 emails a day about hey man, do you know a source I can use.. all it takes is 1 unknowledged person to slip up and give out the source and bam you ruined that whole business possibly and customers who purchase out of that business.. Im not saying this because its fun to talk about it, but I certainly wouldnt want others to ruin it for me and have LE knock on the door. And when did ordering steroids become a low risk activity.. well i guess time in prison is no biggey, along with all of your family members, friends or community looking at you as a drug dealer or user.

I agree with you about the "How to ship steroids" thread, rediculous, i am surprised it wasnt edited by a mod. I know that the Feds can read the boards as well and might/probly do. I think that they do get names of labs or names of gear from the boards as well as many other sources of information. I really dont think that theyre following up on someone, talking about 10 or 30ml of gear being sent to a private residence. And whos going to prison over 30ml of gear, unless youve been to the clink a few times? I was refering to small amounts not mass quantities. What police institution is going to spend the time money over that small amount ? Im not condoning ordering at all im just saying there is alot of things said on the board that could be considered "dangerous" to our safety, most all of which they already know

 

[hmlacrosse]

I'm talking about people who talk about techniques among other things. This loose talk gives away information that is useful to LE.

I wonder how LE first found out about sachets? Did they randomly test one at customs, find one in a bust, hear about it on the internet? I doubt they found it by random testing. If they found it in a bust it's because someone violated security and didn't immediately repackage it and destroy the sachets. Somewhere along the way there was a violation of security that lead to compromise of the sachets.

When all of the UGLs got busted it is because somewhere, somehow there was a violation of security procedure.

But you also have to think some of the problems were brought on by the lackadaisical attitude of the ugl or the maker.

 

[cherigo18cdz]

But you also have to think some of the problems were brought on by the lackadaisical attitude of the ugl or the maker.

Once again poor security.

 

[bigbodymingle]

They advertise this stuff though? Whos fault is that

 

[theincredible1]

you guys are right.. why would LE care about someone ordering 30ml over steroids over internet?? ordering a fucking vial of steroids puts you on their list, if you have the access to order steroids over the internet do you think you will order just once?.. doubt it.. something else that needs to get touched up is PM's.. giving out your hushmail in a pm may not be so safe, if your messages are not encrypted LE knows what your talking about, not cool.

 

[snowball]

many boards openly sell , some have more than 10 legit sources all advertising, you even mention a source here and get banned, theres a big dif between personal use and distributing

 

[bigbodymingle]

Thats like the cops walking around downtown picking up every homeless guy drinking or doing drugs to crack down on the drug problem in the U.S.

 

[hmlacrosse]

u are so paranoid. i don't understand why u are talking about steroids online if you're so scared. the dea doesn't have some magic list that your fucking name shows up on once you order steroids. do it smart, don't be an idiot posting on ology. Period....let the mods take care of what the rules are on ology. ANND if you're so paranoid, then jeeze man, find a personal local source and stick to it, and don't post on here.....minimal chances

 

[needsize]

it really isnt very bright letting LE in on every detail of how this all works...if you think thaty kind of open posting doesnt affect people, then you arent paying attention...how do you think they are so many recent busts over the last year or so...LE reads the boards
we can discuss juice all we want, but openly discussing how we order it, how its shipped, etc, isnt very bright at all

 

[Harlymarlybone]

I have made this mistake and many of us had, but I feel for the boards own safety and probably the peoples own safety.. the comments about how to recieve steroids or give out any information to lead LE to believe you are ordering steroids should stop.. dont give LE anything to work with here, make their job hard as possible.. posting about hey, i had my order seized and im thinking about changing the address and sending it to a freind is this safe posts.. need to stop, I dont want the LE to bust anyone and doing that is asking for trouble.. anybody agree, or am i the lone fish in this lake?

LE isn't going after average Joe making small orders. As far a I can tell, no end users were gone after in Raw Deal, and they had lists with tens of thousands of people, and all their personal information. So I don't think this is a good reason to ban all talk about buying and selling. I think most boards ban it to protect themselves from any LE, legal issues.

 

[Harlymarlybone]

it really isnt very bright letting LE in on every detail of how this all works...if you think thaty kind of open posting doesnt affect people, then you arent paying attention...how do you think they are so many recent busts over the last year or so...LE reads the boards
we can discuss juice all we want, but openly discussing how we order it, how its shipped, etc, isnt very bright at all

The recent busts - Operation Raw Deal - and all the fruitful leads it provided was the result of open source boards like Steroidsuperboard where domestic sellers advertised and made deals openly. Through these LE was easily able to make deals, bust intermediaries, the UG domestic labs, and the identify the China powder sources. This would not have happened if things operated as they are now and did in the past.

 

[hmlacrosse]

The recent busts - Operation Raw Deal - and all the fruitful leads it provided was the result of open source boards like Steroidsuperboard where domestic sellers advertised and made deals openly. Through these LE was easily able to make deals, bust intermediaries, the UG domestic labs, and the identify the China powder sources. This would not have happened if things operated as they are now and did in the past.

let it all out there bro

 

[dead800]

Way to much talk about things that dont need to be talked about.Be safe,cant undo things man.

 

[theincredible1]

you guys dont quite understand this however.. its not a simple person doing crack.. its ordering steroids and having the intent to possess them.. I dont want to argue.. the mods will back me on this, hmlacrosse, and bigbodymingle should just agree.. because your examples and explanations are straight up rediculous.

 

[hmlacrosse]

are you the real jesus?

 

[theincredible1]

its common sense, I made a true statement that only a degenerate who knows nothing about the topic can disagree with.. however yourself disagreed and had no strong point on the topic besides small orders dont make you get caught.. which isnt true, if you want to think that then thats fine.. I guess cops dont care if they catch a guy growing a small pot plant in his apartment, do they just say oh man, you got away.. if it was any bigger we'd have to care.. no, ordering steroids over the internet is a crime wheter its small or a large amount..

 

[Harlymarlybone]

let it all out there bro

huh? Old news. You can read about it the newspapers. Seems like people are being a bit paranoid.

 

[rocko419]

OK boys get off the crack now your getting a bit to paranoid for me..

 

[Harlymarlybone]

I'm talking about people who talk about techniques among other things. This loose talk gives away information that is useful to LE.

I wonder how LE first found out about sachets? Did they randomly test one at customs, find one in a bust, hear about it on the internet? I doubt they found it by random testing. If they found it in a bust it's because someone violated security and didn't immediately repackage it and destroy the sachets. Somewhere along the way there was a violation of security that lead to compromise of the sachets.

When all of the UGLs got busted it is because somewhere, somehow there was a violation of security procedure.

There is no possible way something as massive and as easily accessible as the internet will be "secured" from loose talk about steroids. If it is not happening on this board, it is happening somewhere else. LE nows as much about buying and selling as we do, and always will. The fortunate thing, (from the customer's perspective anyway), is that LE just does not have the resources to use this information in a way that can cut off supply for any reasonable time, and is not going after the end user (generally). This doesn't mean that loose talk cannot cause harm, but for a big seller, it's really only a matter of time anyway.

 

[hmlacrosse]

i was involved in it....i just didn't think u were allowed to talk about open source boards on here....no p