My first Dbol cycle please answer A.S.A.P)

n8dub

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Hey guys,

I am 21 and been going to the gym for about a year now and want to start my first cycle of Dianabol. I got 10 MG capsules and just wondering the dosage and rules I should follow. I got my Nolvadex and milk thistle and was curious how to incorporate those into the cycle as well and what the dosage should be for the Nolvadex. I got 20 MG capsules of that as well. This is my first cycle and I would like some feedback on the "do's" and "don'ts". It is oral by the way.

I am 6'4 and 197 lbs.
 
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well first of all read the "am I ready for gear checklist" sticky on the page you started this thread on

second read "oral only cycles" sticky on that same page

third milk thistle is as good of a protector as putting a plastic bag over your face before someone punches you....think thats gonna protect you? nope

fourth...touching back on number one....you are way to young to be doing any kind of steroids bro....why cant you gain naturally? Your test levels are through the roof right now...train for another 3 - 4 years and then when your hormones have matured you can get your feet wet. You dont want to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life do you?
 
well first of all read the "am I ready for gear checklist" sticky on the page you started this thread on

second read "oral only cycles" sticky on that same page

third milk thistle is as good of a protector as putting a plastic bag over your face before someone punches you....think thats gonna protect you? nope

fourth...touching back on number one....you are way to young to be doing any kind of steroids bro....why cant you gain naturally? Your test levels are through the roof right now...train for another 3 - 4 years and then when your hormones have matured you can get your feet wet. You dont want to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life do you?
I agree with all cept the milk thistle I woudl still rec using this AFTER you finish your orals maybe for a month or so.

but you (thread starter) im my op shouldent be using steroids yet.
 
well it is my frist and only cycle i plan on doing before the summer and I using it as a gain cuz i just recently have pleateu. but thanks I will give those other threads a read.
 
You can't go anywhere around here without running into a thread about why you shouldn't do dbol only, its just not possible.
 
well it is my frist and only cycle i plan on doing before the summer and I using it as a gain cuz i just recently have pleateu. but thanks I will give those other threads a read.

and you havent hit a plateau....your diet has....add food
 
and you havent hit a plateau....your diet has....add food

Agreed..

I realized this a couple months ago, and im putting my cycle on the back burner for a lil while. I dont even wanna touch my aas i have waitting tbo now.. ive brought my bench up 50 pounds since about november (8-10 rep sets) and almost 80 for low reps/1rm's.. and all my compound lifts in general have gone up. i found with myself, if my weight goes up.. so does my poundage on the bar. Eat more and start doing 5x5's or something relatively the same for a month or so. guaren you will go up!

I was gungho to play with aas to get stronger, grow. but I have with diet/training. and its constantly increasing! And I'm 23.. so if I can do it.. im willing to bet you can do a better job! get some creatine fella!

**edit** besides.. when you break through that plateau.. I bet you'll be alot happier you did it drug free! you'll be glad you didnt touch dem Dee-Bols.. that's something to brag about!
 
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If i may chime in, im not pushing the OP to start his cycle as i feel he hasnt evn gotten close to at least a year of perfect eating & training.

Why all the hate on d bol only cycles? If you actually do a search there was a mod on this board who competed who said hes ran many d bol only cycles. I dont think d bol only cycles deserve all this hatred cmon guys :mad:
 
Thanks guys i appreciate for the input but all I really wanted to know was dosage of nolva with 50 mg a day of dbol cycle I only plan on doing one cycle to kind of "cheat" as you would call it for the best results for summer. I am sure I am not jumping into something that will have any serious repercussions. I was planning on taking Mass Tabs or M1T's but a few people from the gym said I would get a more benefit of Dbol.

I plan on starting this week I just don't want "bitch-tits" and overkill the nolva.

Is this a really that bad of a thing I am getting into?
 
Thanks guys i appreciate for the input but all I really wanted to know was dosage of nolva with 50 mg a day of dbol cycle I only plan on doing one cycle to kind of "cheat" as you would call it for the best results for summer. I am sure I am not jumping into something that will have any serious repercussions. I was planning on taking Mass Tabs or M1T's but a few people from the gym said I would get a more benefit of Dbol.

I plan on starting this week I just don't want "bitch-tits" and overkill the nolva.

Is this a really that bad of a thing I am getting into?

Take the advice from the vets above to heart.

You could easily spend the next 6-9 months just educating yourself about all the aspects of AAS. Read the stickies in each section. You want to have your shit together 100% before starting for two key reasons: a. to make sure you understand the health risks and know how to execute to reduce those risks. b. Get into great shape to reduce the chance of injury and get the absolute best results possible should you go on cycle.

For what it's worth, it's possible to get great results with a high calorie diet, intense training and plenty of sleep. At 20 i walked on to a football program after not lifting for two years and had to get bigger quickly. I ate 4,000-5,000 calories a day and put on 42 lbs in 6 months with a 3% increase in body fat (from 10% to 13%). Body weight went from 175 to 217lbs. Bench from 1x @ 185 to 18x @225. Deads were 520lb, Squat at also 520. This isn't to boast, but to endorse that diet and training hard can go a long way at 20-21yrs old. Good luck.
 
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well first of all read the "am I ready for gear checklist" sticky on the page you started this thread on

second read "oral only cycles" sticky on that same page

third milk thistle is as good of a protector as putting a plastic bag over your face before someone punches you....think thats gonna protect you? nope

fourth...touching back on number one....you are way to young to be doing any kind of steroids bro....why cant you gain naturally? Your test levels are through the roof right now...train for another 3 - 4 years and then when your hormones have matured you can get your feet wet. You dont want to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life do you?

lol @ at the plastic bag over your face
 
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If i may chime in, im not pushing the OP to start his cycle as i feel he hasnt evn gotten close to at least a year of perfect eating & training.

Why all the hate on d bol only cycles? If you actually do a search there was a mod on this board who competed who said hes ran many d bol only cycles. I dont think d bol only cycles deserve all this hatred cmon guys :mad:

im guessing those cycles were ran long ago and we have learned a lot since those days.

we know so much more about steroids and their side effects than we did even just a few years ago. why would you not take advantag of that knowledge and run smarter and more effecient cycles instead of doing what we did in the past.
 
im guessing those cycles were ran long ago and we have learned a lot since those days.

we know so much more about steroids and their side effects than we did even just a few years ago. why would you not take advantag of that knowledge and run smarter and more effecient cycles instead of doing what we did in the past.

Lemme start by saying you are probably more educated on gear than i am . I have done a few cycles so i know my share as well but i would just like your opinion on this post .

"all these people quoting "facts", but I have yet to actually see one

"fact", the more anabolic a drug is, the more it will help you to build actual muscle tissue, not water retention, but actual growth.

"fact", dbol is one of the most anabolic drugs out there, mg per mg, it may just be the most anabolic, definitely going by my own experience.

so combine those 2 "facts", and dbol is superior in many ways, to many other anabolic steroids. So why does the old wive's tale about dbol only cycles still persist, that you cant gain and maintain real mass with it....Off hand I can see a few reasons....One, due to another wives tale about how hard it is on the liver, dbol cycles tend to be short, in the order of around 4 weeks, while test and other injectables cycles tend to be in the 8-12 week range. So no brainer, you will gain and keep more off one of the other cycles. Not to mention, add the the mg per week in a test cycle, and compare it to the mgs per week in a dbol cycle, the dbol user is using much less.

Also add in the fact that many that run dbol only cycles due so because they dont want to inject, which tends to have the users who are much less serious about bodybuilding taking this route...those more serious about getting huge, will get over their fear of poking. So this often being the case, the user knows less about training and nutrition, so they dont gain as much pure mass from the cycle as the experienced or serious user. Most of what they gain tends to be water, which of course is pissed out when they stop they cycle, regardless of the post cycle therapy (pct) you follow. Also, this less experienced user, often has difficulty telling the difference between the water gained, and the muscle mass, this is easy to do as much of that water is held within the muscle, its not bloat....I fell for this many times during my early cycles

But I can honestly attribute much of my overall mass to dbol, arnold called it the breakfast of champions for a reason, and I think he knew more about bodybuilding than your average person who has these opinions of dbol. Mg per mg, dbol is by far the best steroid I have ever used...I have been cycling pretty extensively over the years, and as my avatar shows, I've done pretty well. And I am willing to bet I wouldnt be half this advanced without the drug

Dbol only cycles can be done successfully with lots of mass retained, you just need to keep a few things in mind "



^ Steroidology Mod , posted in 09 ^

And OP stay away from gear , youre 197lbs. at 6'4 , the only gear you need is pots & pans and food .
 
I wouldnt venture into Dbol for a first cycle, potient stuff. Plus estrogin becomes a problem specially without test.
 
well first of all read the "am I ready for gear checklist" sticky on the page you started this thread on

second read "oral only cycles" sticky on that same page

third milk thistle is as good of a protector as putting a plastic bag over your face before someone punches you....think thats gonna protect you? nope

fourth...touching back on number one....you are way to young to be doing any kind of steroids bro....why cant you gain naturally? Your test levels are through the roof right now...train for another 3 - 4 years and then when your hormones have matured you can get your feet wet. You dont want to be on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for the rest of your life do you?

"nuff said"
 
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No one is trying to say dbol won't gain strength and mass. It's great for both but you need to understand the basics. All AAS shut down natural test production. When it's shut down it needs to be replaced. That's basically why no oral only cycles

Without test you will eventually lose libido, can become depressed, lethargic, etc. The big issue is you shut down hpta, then you make some gains with dbol and end the cycle. Now you have zero test to help maintain those gains. Pct obviously will help but the point is, there are much better ways to gain and maintain than using an oral as the base of a cycle. Also it's harder to maintain gains that come that quick. Orals have their place but if you are not willing to pin you are not ready and wasting your time. A simple test cycle will produce better gains that will also be more manageable.
 
just do test at 500 a weeks keeps the dbol for ur secound cycle consisting of dbol and test but a dbol only cycle is a waste
 
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