Nelson M's Post Cycle Therapy ingredients..hmmm

ac253189

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I bought a bottle of Protein Factory's PCT, just to see if it was the real deal. Here are a list of the ingredients:

milk thistle 100mgs
epimedium 500mgs
N-Acetly Cystiene 50mgs
Pirkoliv 100mgs
r-ALA 10mgs
Lecithin 250mgs
Maca 500mgs
Calcium D-Glucarets 25mgs
5.7 dihydroxflavone 500mgs
Bioperine 5mgs
Cnidium Monnieri 50mgs
Zinc Asparte 15mgs
Arginine 250mgs

Now, it says take it for 4 weeks, with 1 week break between another 4weeks. The reason I think this product is a scam is that it says it has 30 servings in the bottle, but the bottle will only last 2weeks because you're suppose to take 2 servings for the first 4 weeks, followed by a "maintenance dose" of 1 serving a day for 4 weeks. When you do the math, you end up spending $75.00. In my opinion, Nolva or Clomid sounds like the better deal.

Anyone have 2 cents?
 
First of all, Post -Cycle is not intended as a replacement for Nolva or Clomid. And neither Nolva or Clomid will do anything to detox the liver or improve erectile function. You might as well compare nolva to Tylers Liver Aid or Viagra.

Post-Cycle can also alleviate many of the side effects of Nolva and/or Clomid because you would need less of it. It also doesn't lower IGF or LSH or cause vision problems or acne like Clomid does. It is also meant to be used in conjunction with Unleashed which lowers SHBG, something else neither Nolva or Clomid do. In fact, Clomid may RAISE it.

AND your math is off. 6 weeks of Nolva would add up to 75 buck or so. Meanwhile Post-Cycle is half the cost of many inferior natural anti-e's.

So you aven't even tried it yet and you decided this is a scam, why? Because you decided you don't want to use it for as long as it's needed? That's kinda dumb bro.
 
first of all nelson, i said it was a scam beside on the website you forget to add, " take 2 servings for 4weeks followed by a maintenace dose of 1 serving a day.
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Again, we avoided some typical "window dressing" ingredients in favor of the most effective compounds available. When it came to anti-estrogens we passed on DIM and I3C because these compounds are mild estrogens which MAY inhibit further estrogens from attaching to receptors, OR, (and this is what they never tell you) they may have an estrogenic effect on their own! No way. We also passed on some of the new androstenetrione antiestrogens simply for the fact that no research has been conducted on them. There's no way of knowing if these compounds have a "rebound" effect, causing an increase in estrogen once you stop using it. That's why we went with Calcium D-Glucarate in combination with 5, 7-dihydroxyflavone and added the Bioperine to increase its absorption. This allows for the safe, proven removal of excess estrogens for a perfect hormonal balance.

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Serving Size 3 Capsules (once per day)
Servings per Container 30
Milk Thistle:80%Silymarin 100mgs
Epimedium 500 mgs
N-Acetyl Cysteine 50 mgs
Pirkoliv (Ayurvedic herb) 100 mgs
r-ALA 10 mgs
Lecithin (containing Phosphatidyl Choline) 250 mgs
Maca 500 mgs
Calcium D-Glucarate 25 mgs
5, 7 Dihydroxyflavone 500 mgs
Bioperine 5 mgs
Cindium Monnieri 50 mgs
Zinc Aspartate 15 mgs
Arginine 250 mgs

As everyone knows, the use of anabolics carries certain health risks. And once you come off, the side effects are even worse. A suppressed HPTA. Elevated liver enzymes. Lowered libido. Increased estrogen. These things will not only compromise your health but they'll slow down recuperation. In the meantime, you'll lose precious muscle! Don't let it happen.

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POST-CYCLE is specifically designed with a unique combination of ingredients which provide multifaceted benefits for the anabolic user.

First, we've included not one, not two, but FIVE different ingredients to help guard, clean and detoxify the liver.
Milk Thistle:80%Silymarin 100mgs
N-Acetyl Cysteine: 50 mgs
Pirkoliv: (Ayurvedic herb) 100mgs
r-ALA: 10 mgs
Lecithin (containing Phosphatidyl Choline) 250mgs
The next step was to add Estrogen ELIMINATORS.

This is important. Anything that blocks the production of estrogen only works as long as you take the product. As soon as you stop, the estrogen comes back twofold! The key is to REMOVE excess estrones, and the only ingredients we've found to do that are here! But the dosages must be correct! Too much or too little can throw your hormonal balance way off. POST-CYCLE contains the following aromatase inhibitors:

Calcium D-Glucarate: 25 mgs, 5,7-dihydroxyflavone: 500 mgs Piperine:5mgs

In a case study using the blood work as the gauge, this combination of ingredients proved to lower estrodiol levels over 20%! (Blood tests don't lie)

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One of the ingredients of POST CYCLE is a newly discovered compound called Cnidium Monnieri. (50mgs) This amazing substance increases NO (Nitric Oxide) just like Viagra does! Two capsules twenty minutes before "activity" and we guarantee you won't be "let down."

Also included in POST-CYCLE is 500mgs of high potency MACA, and 250 mgs of Epimedium to help kick start your sex drive. 15mgs of Zinc Aspartate (for both estrogen maintenance and testosterone production) as well as 250mgs of L-Arginine are also added to enhance Nitric Oxide production, supress estrogen and highten testosterone.

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so you need to stop thinking you're always right. I never said it wasnt going to work, I just thought it was misinforming that you make it look like 1 bottle is all you need, when you actualyl need 3.
 
gee, whats next. supplement co. are scamming the fuck off young guys that only see articles that are made by the co. making the product. Of course their going to make it look awesome. When kids see greg kovacs holding a supplement claiming it give him his 27inch arms, they think its the shit and they have to have it. Anybody who tries to push this sort of shit on the board ought to be ashamed of thereslves. you might as well sell them fake gear IMO.
the only supplements i recommend to anyone is a multi vitamin, protein shakes, and a few anti oxidants. There are other things some ppl buy, but who really knows if the ingredient is actuall in there.???
 
ace253: It's not a matter of always being right bro. No offense intended. I just didn't understand way you were saying it was a scam and that's what I took offense to. I see what your saying though.

I didn't read anywhere that you needed only one bottle. Of course one bottle is better than none, but any PC treatment takes a while. As far as supps go, its a very fair price.

hunter: True, you don't NEED any supplements. But some help. I felt there was a need to a supp for guys on gear. That's going to have a limited audience, but I believe it's as important as the cycle itself and whatever you can do to help it is a good idea.

And of course, any promo is intended to make the product as appealing as possible, but at least the Protein factory people don't lie. There are no paid endorsements from pros claiming they got huge exclusively from using their products. Just regular guys saying it worked for them. That may not have as much "pizazz" but it's the truth.
 
Just checked out protein factory, i like the prices on some of the protein product. Are they sold in pound containers or do you have bigger ones like 5 pound.??? Im interested in some of the milk protein and whey protein. How does protein factory rate, i see where you have a 5 out of 10, but what would be a 10???
 
I got PC also and it's got great ingredients.

Oh well, I didn't know about the 2 servings for 4 weeks either. That is just "recommended" though.

Just do it, it's your body.
 
well i am takin post cycle with clomid and it seems to be working great, it is a good addition to post cycle therapy (pct) theripy IMO.
 
Nelson Montana said:


. 6 weeks of Nolva would add up to 75 buck or so.
Sorry Nelson believers, he is no more than a slick salesman. 6 weeks of nolva at 20mg's (thats what I use) costs me about 6 dollars plus shipping. Please do-not be fooled by this con-artist.
 
well, you figure most will do about a gram or less over 6 weeks so thats not ever gooing to cost $75! i cant see it being over 50 with all these "research" companies pasted all over the place.

i bet this post cycle therapy (pct) could be offered for less but what can you expect with these supp owners out there.
 
The last time I bought protein from them it was in a plastic bag. Allthewhey sales his protein in plastic containers, try tureprotein for a price comparison

JohnnyB
 
lartinos said:
Sorry Nelson believers, he is no more than a slick salesman. 6 weeks of nolva at 20mg's (thats what I use) costs me about 6 dollars plus shipping. Please do-not be fooled by this con-artist.

20 mgs of nolva a day for a dollar a week? That's hard to believe, but hey, good for you. But I don't see how being wrong about the price of Nolva makes me a con artist. I must say, I resent accusations like that. They have no merit. You make no point. You offer no explanation. It's just flagrant insulting based on ignorance.
At any rate, if you were paying attention I already exlained that Post-Cycle and Nolva do differemt things.

As with all Protein Factory products, the mark up isn't very high at all. Come on, Tribex costs like 40 bucks. A two pound tub of an MRP (with cheap protein) goes for around $35 and at Protein Factory two ponds of quality protein with any blend you want runs about $16. If you want to attack supplement companies for overcharging, they should be last on the list.
 
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