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Cobra Strike
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welcome...
whats your first cycle look like?
whats your first cycle look like?
StevenTae
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Hey Bro... First cycle:
Weeks 1-10 500MG Sustanon (sust) Per week
Weeks 5-10 50MG Winstrol (winny) (inject) daily
PCT arimidex and hcg
39 years old, 6 foot 200 pounds, 16.4% bf.
Two years ago was 270 pounds about 38% bf. Got the weight down to 175 with about 22%bf through mostly diet and cardio. About a year ago started working out heavier and increased my weight to 200 pounds with 16.4% bf. Want to get up about 15-20 pounds of lean muscle. Not in a rush, that is my overall goal. Seemed to have hit a wall the past 1.5 months. Changing up diet and changing up workouts and my body is just staying the same so hoping this first cycle gets me on the right track.
Been researching for a while on these forums on what type of cycle I would want to do but told myself that I would only do it if I felt that I hit a wall doing it natty.
Hope that makes sense...
Cobra Strike
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that makes complete sense....but there are some things you could do differently here...Im not sure when you start this but first cycles are suppose to be test only...and if your doing sus then its 12 weeks minimum....
IMO the only thing Winstrol (winny) is good for is decreasing shbg at 15mg/ed....otherwise its crap and I would recommend you not take it...plus its not even a cutter
whats your post cycle therapy (pct) look like? and do you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand?
IMO the only thing Winstrol (winny) is good for is decreasing shbg at 15mg/ed....otherwise its crap and I would recommend you not take it...plus its not even a cutter
whats your post cycle therapy (pct) look like? and do you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand?
hey mate, got a couple questions. also jsut someone starting out.
I used to be overweight in my early teens roughly 220 pounds and after endless cardio and excercise have gotten back down to 175 pounds. I have decided to get back up to the weight i was but instead of being fat, would love to be lean cut muscle. I have started eating healthy and dieting properly and hitting the gym most days and yet to see proper results.
Any chance you can gimme a cycle of what steroids i should use to bulk up quickly and also lose unwanted bodyfat. oral or injections. any information would be highly appreciated. cheers mate
I used to be overweight in my early teens roughly 220 pounds and after endless cardio and excercise have gotten back down to 175 pounds. I have decided to get back up to the weight i was but instead of being fat, would love to be lean cut muscle. I have started eating healthy and dieting properly and hitting the gym most days and yet to see proper results.
Any chance you can gimme a cycle of what steroids i should use to bulk up quickly and also lose unwanted bodyfat. oral or injections. any information would be highly appreciated. cheers mate
StevenTae
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What you say makes sense about the winny... I am on week 6 of the cycle so I have been on the Winstrol (winny) for a bit and it is harsh. Knees are starting to kill me as I go up and down ladders all day and the injection site pain for days is harsh. My strength gains went up a bit after the Winstrol (winny) started but I am sure that has more to do with the Sustanon (sust) starting to kick in...
I have Letro on hand for Aromatase inhibitor (AI) incase.
Wit the PCT what I was told by an HRT therapist that I know that was able to get me what I am using. Yeah I know. LOL
She told me to during cycle to take 1 arimidex twice a week (Not at home so I don't know the dosage off hand) and two shoot Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the two days prior to my test shot. So if I am doing my Sustanon (sust) on monday I am take .10 cc of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on Saturday and .10CC on Sunday. I went over the pros and cons of doing it during cycle vs. for the weeks after the cycle. Her feeling was to do it during cycle and then continue it for 4 weeks after cycle so that the body won't completley shut down during cycle. My estrogen levels were a little high at start of cycle so she felt that it would be best for me to do it this way. Any comments on this would be appreciated. Have been reading through your posts and you are definitely someone I can learn a shit load from!
Cobra Strike
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Cobra Strike
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Ya I would either drop the dosage down to what I said before or drop it all together....winni fucks up your lipids and drys out your joints...thats why they hurt..
as far as your hrt therapist...most of these type of people dont know wtf they are talking about...no offense
arimidex at 1 pill twice a week wont do shit....thats only 2 mg....its best to take it at .5mg/ed....aromasin is the best though and that is ran at 12.5mg/ed.
as far as the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) goes you should start with 250iu mon and thurs and if you notice testicular shrinkage than up it to 500iu twice a week....also do not take it for four weeks after your cycle....she is completely wrong on this...hcg suppresses your hpta and that is what your pct is trying to recover. So do the 250iu mon and thurs then the day after your last inject start 500iu/ed for 16 days...then 4 days later you will start your pct...thats how you run hcg!
if i didn't know better i'd say cobra knows what he is talking about.
i agree with above.
running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during pct is not a good idea. it is an analog (looks like) luteinizing hormone which stimulates the lydig cells of the balls to secrete test. problem is it keeps you own production of LH shut down, so there is negative inhibition at a different point in the hpta chain.
i would also run a selective estrogen reuptake modulator for the post cycle, like toremifene or clomid/nolvadex
think about that.
i agree with cobra about the winstrol.
if you are looking for something to lower shbg i would run proviron at 50mg/day
i agree with above.
running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during pct is not a good idea. it is an analog (looks like) luteinizing hormone which stimulates the lydig cells of the balls to secrete test. problem is it keeps you own production of LH shut down, so there is negative inhibition at a different point in the hpta chain.
i would also run a selective estrogen reuptake modulator for the post cycle, like toremifene or clomid/nolvadex
think about that.
i agree with cobra about the winstrol.
if you are looking for something to lower shbg i would run proviron at 50mg/day
Blondie_Bombshell
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Welcome to the board steven!
StevenTae
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Ya I would either drop the dosage down to what I said before or drop it all together....winni fucks up your lipids and drys out your joints...thats why they hurt..
as far as your hrt therapist...most of these type of people dont know wtf they are talking about...no offense
arimidex at 1 pill twice a week wont do shit....thats only 2 mg....its best to take it at .5mg/ed....aromasin is the best though and that is ran at 12.5mg/ed.
as far as the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) goes you should start with 250iu mon and thurs and if you notice testicular shrinkage than up it to 500iu twice a week....also do not take it for four weeks after your cycle....she is completely wrong on this...hcg suppresses your hpta and that is what your pct is trying to recover. So do the 250iu mon and thurs then the day after your last inject start 500iu/ed for 16 days...then 4 days later you will start your pct...thats how you run hcg!
Cobra, you da man! Thank you for the advice!!! Great to have a resource like this!
Welcome to the Board, lots of good information on here.
powerman84
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welcome!!!
