Nutropin Depot??

[IntensityX]

Nutropin Depot is a unique form of synthetic rhGH made by Genentech, the first pharmaceutical company to obtain FDA approval for the medical use of GH back in 1979.
Like all human GH, Depot has 191 amino acid residues and a molecular weight of 22,125 daltons. It's the delivery system that makes it special. When reconstituted, the GH molecules are microencapsulated in solution. The capsules are of varying thickness, and therefore release in a timed fashion.......like self-dissolving sutures. One injection is supposed to last 4 weeks, delivering an average 2.25iu GH daily. Actually, some of the Depot is non-encapsulated, and a relatively substantial dose is released in the first week....... you can definitely feel it. Since it is self-tapering, natural production of endogenous GH is gradually restored to normal toward the end of the month.
For those simply seeking to maintain the lean body composition afforded by supplemental GH, one 22.5 kit every 4 weeks is fine. If you are new to GH and looking to make dramatic changes in lean mass, I would recommend using a 22.5 kit every 3 weeks, or an 18mg kit every 2 weeks until the desired results are achieved......or add in a daily injection of regular GH after the first week.
I have used Nutropin Depot exclusively for almost a year. I used regular GH for 4 years straight prior to starting the Depot. The Depot is simply the best, most potent rhGH I have tried. Either it is of superior quality, or it is overdosed.....damn good stuff.
I have no experience with Supra, but I have to say.....I'm a bit skeptical. First of all, it is said that it can be kept at room temperature. The only rhGH patented for this is Serono. Could an underground lab accomplish this where no other major pharmaceutical company can? Heck, they can't even get the labels straight on the vials. And no other company of any size has duplicated the microencapsulation for timed release. And I see brothers post that Supra can be injected with an insulin dart........no way with the encapsulated solution. Depot requires a 21 gauge pin, and even those will clog unless you inject quickly.
But here's the other side of it, to be fair. Supra does make some darn good products. I have used several of the steroid preparations, and liked them. The good news here is that there are some fine brothers trying the GH right now........Trev, Fonz, ulter and others who enjoy great reputations. I look forward to the final reports from these gentlemen.
In the meantime, Depot is my preferred brand. It is not approved for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), only for growth deficient children, so no script yet. I pay blackmarket retail like evryone else......and it's worth every penny to this old man.

Damn fuck Ironmaster,you make me want to try this stuff,good post

Eat,Learn,Train,Grow
IntensityX

 

[Trevdog]

How is the price on the Supra GH Trev?

The quoted price is $300 per kit.

Somebody sent me a pm asking for the source's contact info. Not only should people never talk about sources in PM's but I am not authorized to release this information, so please no more inquiries folks.

 

[IntensityX]

I'm new to the GH game here so if this sounds like a stupid question then I apologize but how is the fat burning capabilites of Nutropin vs other GH products like Jintropin?

Eat,Learn,Train,Grow
IntensityX

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Nutropin Depot is a unique form of synthetic rhGH made by Genentech, the first pharmaceutical company to obtain FDA approval for the medical use of GH back in 1979.
Like all human GH, Depot has 191 amino acid residues and a molecular weight of 22,125 daltons. It's the delivery system that makes it special. When reconstituted, the GH molecules are microencapsulated in solution. The capsules are of varying thickness, and therefore release in a timed fashion.......like self-dissolving sutures. One injection is supposed to last 4 weeks, delivering an average 2.25iu GH daily. Actually, some of the Depot is non-encapsulated, and a relatively substantial dose is released in the first week....... you can definitely feel it. Since it is self-tapering, natural production of endogenous GH is gradually restored to normal toward the end of the month.
For those simply seeking to maintain the lean body composition afforded by supplemental GH, one 22.5 kit every 4 weeks is fine. If you are new to GH and looking to make dramatic changes in lean mass, I would recommend using a 22.5 kit every 3 weeks, or an 18mg kit every 2 weeks until the desired results are achieved......or add in a daily injection of regular GH after the first week.
I have used Nutropin Depot exclusively for almost a year. I used regular GH for 4 years straight prior to starting the Depot. The Depot is simply the best, most potent rhGH I have tried. Either it is of superior quality, or it is overdosed.....damn good stuff.
I have no experience with Supra, but I have to say.....I'm a bit skeptical. First of all, it is said that it can be kept at room temperature. The only rhGH patented for this is Serono. Could an underground lab accomplish this where no other major pharmaceutical company can? Heck, they can't even get the labels straight on the vials. And no other company of any size has duplicated the microencapsulation for timed release. And I see brothers post that Supra can be injected with an insulin dart........no way with the encapsulated solution. Depot requires a 21 gauge pin, and even those will clog unless you inject quickly.
But here's the other side of it, to be fair. Supra does make some darn good products. I have used several of the steroid preparations, and liked them. The good news here is that there are some fine brothers trying the GH right now........Trev, Fonz, ulter and others who enjoy great reputations. I look forward to the final reports from these gentlemen.
In the meantime, Depot is my preferred brand. It is not approved for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), only for growth deficient children, so no script yet. I pay blackmarket retail like evryone else......and it's worth every penny to this old man.

ok so i take it this GH is intra muscluar injections not Sub-Q? also, is each 22.5 kit only 1 shot? how long does it last. dumb questions i know but just treing to be 100% sure.

 

[ironmaster]

Bouncer, the only dumb question is the one not asked.

No, Depot is injected subcutaneously. It makes a noticable bump for a while at the site. If your abs are very lean, use the upper quad. Otherwise, the abs are best. And yes, you take one injection of 22.5mg. It time releases for 30 days. That's the magic of it. Very convenient and very effective. I used to shoot at least 2 times daily, and traveling with GH was a real chore. Now it's there working all the time.

GH doesn't exactly burn fat, it changes body composition. Lean mass is the end result if you are patient. (regular GH causes tissue atrophy at the site of injection, so it will take off those love handles locally)

 

[Stud Diesel]

I’ve used several Nutropin Depot kits in the past and it is excellent stuff.

I’m currently using the L rHGH from the company pictured in a prior post. (that’s my picture) BTW it comes with 22g ¾ “ pins.

 

[mvmaxx]

I have no experience with Supra, but I have to say.....I'm a bit skeptical. First of all, it is said that it can be kept at room temperature. The only rhGH patented for this is Serono. Could an underground lab accomplish this where no other major pharmaceutical company can? Heck, they can't even get the labels straight on the vials. And no other company of any size has duplicated the microencapsulation for timed release. And I see brothers post that Supra can be injected with an insulin dart........no way with the encapsulated solution. Depot requires a 21 gauge pin, and even those will clog unless you inject quickly.

In the meantime, Depot is my preferred brand. It is not approved for Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT), only for growth deficient children, so no script yet. I pay blackmarket retail like evryone else......and it's worth every penny to this old man.

I share the same concerns with you regarding UG HGH. I'm interested to see what Trevdog, Fonz and Ulter say.

And that was the same info my brother gave me in regards to getting a script for it.

 

[georgie24]

supra is a great company, i cant wait to dabble gh

 

[gorilla_boy]

Am I the only one who is skeptical of underground long acting GH? Nevermind the claims that somehow they're doing a better job than a real pharmacuetical company and therefore it doesn't need to be refrigerated...

 

[mvmaxx]

Am I the only one who is skeptical of underground long acting GH?

No.

 

[buffdoc]

I too am skeptical. The microencapsulation that Genentech uses is not exactly simple. And the diluent is a very viscous, specific carrier for the GH microspheres. I'd like to hear from someone at Supra about how they duplicate this, and store it at room temp, no less.
I've been on the Nutropin Depot for about 6 months now. Effective and convenient. I use the 18 mg kits (1.8 units/day average, probably more due to overfill). The 22.5's (2.25 units/day) gave me a little carpal tunnel type symptoms, so I switched down to the 18's after 2 months.
Ironmaster is right on with his comments.

 

[Trevdog]

I've been through the same thoughts about the complicated process and the apparent difficulty an underground lab should have with it.

However, I decided to try it for these reasons:

1. Supra's reputation and the people associated with them.

2. The price as compared to nutropin depot.

3. The good reviews I keep reading, including some from people like ulter.

 

[allonred17]

yeah i heard the stuff was good too. i got the genetech 22.5 kit, was planning on using it in the next cycle with test/tren/winny. problem is i got a growth in my colon that the doc cut out about 1 month ago, but he said by no means to use the nutropin cause it could make it blow up again. this sucks

 

[DANCER]

I have read this board from pretty much the first days. I can tell you guys that when the Trenbolone Enanthate was first made by that UG on this very board there were many post by a few vets that doubted it.

I recall a vet here and on bolix said that if it was UG it must be toxic and will end up causing much damage. He went on to say that Bill Roberts was 100% sure/ stated the case that esterfying trenbolone will not be safe by a UG. I will pull the Thread.

When they came out with Masteron here again many people said there was no way a UG could come up with Masteron. On many boards many people where 100% convinced it was fake or a scam.

At one time oh maybe 2 years or so ago when they came out with a Test 425 many people doubted it was real. Back then test 400 by denkal was hard to believe.

Yet today, all three of those products are tested and they all came up as legit and dosed correctly and even over. I think it is important that none of the tests on the boards of those 3 products are from the UG itself but from mod/vets/admin.

Personally, I like Ironmaster, have used many of that company’s products. For the most part I am happy with all products, they were painless with exception to that Test 425. 3 weeks ago I did my first kit of long GH I know it must be working. I have done Jins and serono with all three products I have gotten some swelling of the hands.


Here is the quote from Goanna

 

[DANCER]

Goanna
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I have posted this in the last few threads about tren enanthate. Trenbolone Enanthate is not something that is too complicated to produce. All the necesary chemicals and supplies are readily available over the internet. If you have basic laboratory equiptment and skills, it can be done fairly easily.

The problem is that making tren enanthate in an underground lab may lead to a product containing harmfull solvents or endotoxins.

Heres the thing. Trenbolone enanthate has never been produced by a pharmacuetical company. It is also not produced for research purposes. Therefore, in order to produce it, someone would have to either get pure trenbolone base, or strip the acetate ester off of trenbolone acetate in order to get trenbolone base.

After that, there are several complicated steps involving some harsh solvents and acids that are required to get a molecule of enanthic anhydride to attach to a molecule of trenbolone and form a enanthate ester.

If everything is done right, the end product will be trenbolone enanthate. But unless this underground laboratory has the capital to run every single batch through a high performance liquid chromatograph, there is no way of telling wether any of the solvents got through the process, or if the process resulted in a high level of endotoxins (a good possibility due to the fact that enanthic anhydride is not easily available in USP grade, and is actually sold as a solvent itself).

I hate to burst everyones bubble, and I know damn well that if I had access to USP grade trenbolone enanthate, I would stock up. But until that time, I am not going to purchase it in powder or injectable form from an underground lab. Take this as you will. I know some of you will disregard this and stock up on it anyway, but maybe I will get through to some of you.

Goanna

 

[ironmaster]

Hi dancer, how have you been?

Hey, man......we all hope that this stuff turns out to be the real deal. The more players out there in the market, the better it is for us consumers. It's reports from guys like you that I look for.
Did you keep yours w/o refrigeration? For how long? How long will you go in between injections? Post again when you start to feel those hands getting better. Might tell us how long the "depot" lasts.
I can tell pretty quick if a new brand of GH works, too.
What do think of the long-3.......?

 

[William_WaLLace]

I have used Supras r_HGH for the last few months, and it is simply an awesome product.

Increased hunger, lean body mass, energy, the stuff has just been great, i do stick mine in the fridge once I receive it, and I believe that is the reccomendation from the company.

I am also hesitatnt of UG labs, but Supra puts a little more effort into there products than most.

 

[DANCER]

Hi dancer, how have you been?

Hey, man......we all hope that this stuff turns out to be the real deal. The more players out there in the market, the better it is for us consumers. It's reports from guys like you that I look for.
Did you keep yours w/o refrigeration? For how long? How long will you go in between injections? Post again when you start to feel those hands getting better. Might tell us how long the "depot" lasts.
I can tell pretty quick if a new brand of GH works, too.
What do think of the long-3.......?

When I got mine it was basically refrigerated because it was 40 F outside or so. When I got in I put it in my refrigerator. This was after I emailed and told you know who I got it refrigerated, got an email back that said better to keep it refrigerated since it already basically was. I took a full kit first day and took another 2 weeks later. That is 4.5 ius ED which is what I was recommended.

As for the swelling of the hands, it’s not terrible but I have a ring that I usually wear that is tight on my middle left hand. I can't get it off in the mornings. Like you I can tell within a week’s time or so if the particular brand of GH works or does not. With this since I only took a shot every two weeks and at the end of the 2nd week I can feel the swelling of my hands I have to say the depot is working some how.

I got a few mgs of igf-1r3 back in the day from A, aka kit man. I used it both on and off cycle. off cycle I took it with EPO/slin/morning dbol/hcg it felt like I was on a full cycle. Do a search under my handle on AF it was over a year ago.

Another issue, Ironmaster, is the actual compound, recombinant human growth hormone. From all that I read and studied up on the compound in pure form it must be kept at or below -30C. The actual formulations from diff pharm companies is what makes the compound stay stable at higher temps. I have never seen or doubt I will ever see rhGH sold in pure form.

I am not sure if none refrigerated rhGH is particularly rare. Virtually most of the Chinese brands are not refrigerated prior to reconstitution. I did jin end of last year. When I got the package it was not on ice or anything like that the product over all worked.

Nutropins I really do not understand perhaps its just me. They have to be refrigerated when shipped and keep so until shot. When shot into your 98 F body it will stay good and release over month's time or so. I really don't understand why it has to be kept on ice and so on but it can survive inside the human body with is 98 F and slightly acidic in composition.

 

[Stud Diesel]

I’ve been using su*** products since their inception, way back when they used the plain old silver labels. They had a small problem with some enthanate early on, but they rectified that problem quickly. Since then I’ve used them exclusively (orals aside) and have been very satisfied with everything—including the new tren enth and masteron.

I’ve also used the Nutropin Depot and there is no question—that stuff is top notch. I’m not poor and I did consider buying some more Nutropin, but I am also confident in the quality of su*** products and since the price is right, I bought a few of them.

sorry, I had to remove the image

I’m only on my second week, so of course I can’t report any gains because as most of you know, the gains from rHGH come slowly and steadily. I can tell you this. The stuff feels like good rHGH—just like the Nutropin that I have used. I have enhanced mood and slight swelling in my hands. For more results, stay tuned.

 

[Trevdog]

Maybe it's just my imagination making me see what I want to see. However, I shot half a kit of supra gh on Wednesday and when I got up on Thursday and looked in the mirror I seemed to look better already. Nothing terribly dramatic, but my muscles looked harder.

BTW, I don't recommend using a 1.5 inch pin for a subcutaneous injection after taking 150 mcg. of clenbuterol. I was a little wobbly, lol. I have some shorter pins, it was just that I have a bunch of 1.5 inch 25 gauges. I think the supra may be thin enough to go through a 27 gauge insulin pin.