Older dude needs advice for cycle

[heromaker4]

Hi Im 43 years old 6,5 weight 28lbs, body fat 19%

I am a professional arborist, 'tree trimmer'. I want to get stronger and possibly strengthen my tendons if possible, I have alot of tendon pain from 20years of climbing. I dont mind gaining weight if its clean on this cycle and then follow up with a cutting cycle. I have never been on a cycle before. I plan on lifting 5 days a week after work.I have studied steroids for years but because I have to climb and do hard labor 5 days a week i would appreciate any advice. I was thinking 500Ctest weeks, Dianobol first 6 weeks then 6weeks of deca and run Nolva at the end. What do you guys think?

 

[Austinite]

Welcome,

You've either approached or getting close to late-onset hypogonadism. Have you had your testosterone levels checked lately? You might be a candidate for testosterone therapy.

 

[heromaker4]

43 year old first cycle, need advice

Hi Im 43 years old 6,5 weight 28lbs, body fat 19%

I am a professional arborist, 'tree trimmer'. I want to get stronger and possibly strengthen my tendons if possible, I have alot of tendon pain from 20years of climbing. I dont mind gaining weight if its clean on this cycle and then follow up with a cutting cycle. I have never been on a cycle before. I plan on lifting 5 days a week after work.I have studied steroids for years but because I have to climb and do hard labor 5 days a week. Do you think I should just go for a cutting cycle because of my tendon problems? i would appreciate any advice. I was thinking 500Ctest 12 weeks, Dianobol first 6 weeks then 6weeks of deca and run Nolva at the end. What do you guys think?

 

[Teutonic]

Welcome you old fart...

A stanard 1 time for a 1 timer is
500 mg a week for 12 weeks of test e, c or s.
Try to have an ai like adex or aromasine on hand to counter sides
hcg is a good idea, 125-250 at 2,3 times a week

PCT if you plan on trying to restore to natty test production one day. At 43 your more prone to wind up on trt but its not for sure..

I don t comment on pct much as I do not do it but chlomid at 50 x 28 after 2 weeks of no pins. I hear nolvadex in conjunction w chlomid leads to a better experience and better recovery 40 x 28 days ran concurrently. Others say to start these higher and end up lower; i am of the opinion that simplicity has its own benefits.

 

[DipKing]

weight 28lbs

I am a professional arborist, 'tree trimmer'.

then 6weeks of deca and run Nolva at the end.

You mean 280 lbs? Big guy to be climbing trees all day!

Testosterone only is best first cycle to gauge how you react to side effects. Kind of like a learning stage. Deca is generally run in longer cycles. 6 weeks wouldn't do much good. If you're looking for the benefits it gives in regards to connective tissue, perhaps NPP would be better suited for you? But then again, I'm not sure how much that would effect your profession, and a 19-nor is not recommended first time around. Instead of Dbol you might prefer Tbol. It's very similar, but without as much bloat.

PCT is optimal with both Nolva and Clomid.

Teutonic is right. Be sure to include an AI. You're by no means obese, but 19% is a tad bit high, and armoitization happens easier with higher body fat percentages.

 

[underpsi]

not sure if i'm reading right. you didn't really say much about your work out experience /time in. sort of reads to me like your just starting or going to start. if that's correct, be a great idea to work out a few months first. deca is great but test only makes great sense. learning how to balance test/e2 before using a 19nor compound. maybe looking into tb500 with test? or tb500 to start if you have no time back in gym yet. many swear by it for joint/tendon repair.

 

[soldier74]

400mg/deca/week good for joint/tendon pain

 

[Teutonic]

For a 1 st timer who has no idea of how he may react ? I agree we old guy s ache and deca is a god send but deca opens up another , "2nd front should he war against side effects".

I know you meant well Soldier74 but lets take this cat through standard introduction to the dark side. Cant have him making his own milk with a li,mp dick can we....I know...caber..prami...adex..aromasine...makes my head spin.

OP

well get to 19 nors soon enough

 

[heromaker4]

Thank you Austinite, I do have a low T count around 340. My Dr told me that 340 is a normal range but I think thats BS from what I have read online.

 

[Austinite]

Thank you Austinite, I do have a low T count around 340. My Dr told me that 340 is a normal range but I think thats BS from what I have read online.

If that's ng/dL, you are correct, it is certainly low. If your doctor is not an endocrinologist, I would ask him to refer you to one as they generally have much more of an understanding on this topic. I think T therapy is a good option for your goals, and will have you feeling much better in the long term. Cycling steroids can and will cause issues at first with all the hormonal chances, blood work to monitor, etc.. and coming off can be tough for some.

 

[Black Beard]

Teutonic's advice is virtually perfect. Hcg will increase the chances of maintaining optimal testicular function post cycle. Definitely do pct with clomid/nolva. You should recover pretty much 100% but there are no guarantees. Do not forget to get blood work, before, during and after your cycle. It is very important. I can't believe some people never get any blood work.

 

[3J]

a cycle isn't going to do much for your tendons bro

 

[Black Beard]

Yeah i've read something about some peptides assisting in joint recovery. I don't know anything about that though.

 

[heromaker4]

Sorry yes Im 281 pounds

 

[heromaker4]

Thank you guys

 

[Shredchem]

I would personally do a 15 week deca cycle with a trt test base. Maybe use Dbol as a kickstart as well. Deca needs a longer time to kick in, so you won't be making good gains until mid-cycle anyways.

Run a DA throughout the cycle and an AI as needed with standard pct.