brother bundy
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You should have your balls cut off then you never have to worry about shutdown.I hate fucks like you!!!
PH and Test as a base?
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so you joined this forum, and went right into arguing with guys that have decades of experience with AAS between them? what was the point of asking your question if you already knew the fucking answer. oh wait you didn't. are you so simple that you don't understand PH shuts you down, so you take test with it, your body uses the synthetic test as its own, it doesn't know the difference. no it won't shut you down twice as hard, you're already completely shut down from the ph regardless! if you took just test, yes that shuts you down too, but the test you are taking is in your system so it doesn't matter. that's what Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and post cycle therapy (pct) is for you fucktard. oh and you're gonna make ALL KINDS of gains on SD huh? wow a whole 4 pounds if you're lucky and i guarantee you don't keep an ounce of it. you're just one of those pussies that's scared to stick a little needle in your ass, but you probably have no problem taking a big fat cock in your ass. nice hair by the way homo. keep talking shit on the internet too knowing you won't do shit..... it's the fucking internet. keyboard warrior. nice spelling as well.
I never ran my PH cycle yet diptard thats right your a fucking diptard, I'll be running SD for 4 weeks and I'm gonna make all kinds of gains, you must watch TMW cuz you like their mushroom tip until they say FUCK OUT DA WHEY. Once I start my 4 week cycle of SD I'll be sure to come back and say guess what guys I gained and kept 10 pounds and my bench went up 50 pounds and I KEPT IT! then you will cry and say NO THATS IMPOSSIBLE! then i will say fuck you role the video bitchU MAD THAT IMA MAKE SOME GAINS HOE?
10 pounds and 50 pounds on bench off a 4 week cycle of a prohormone???? were you born retarded or did you have to work at it? what do you think your squat and deadlift will go up? oh wait you're probably one of those guys that just benches and curls at the squat rack. you do leg extensions and leg curls for legs? i bet you got some fuckin tree trunks
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brother bundy
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View attachment 544519 this guy is a true jerkoff
ICEN
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Actually I'll be waiting here in PA, im a key board warrior because im one of the few that will give you my ACTUALL REAL LIFE address if you wanna get fucked up so bad. You want my phone number to probably to pussy to even pick up his phone. Nice pic of yourself of wait you have none cuz your a little skinny bitch. If you don't think I can add 50 pounds on a bench press in one month you are a dumbass. Anytime homo you should give me your facebook so I can see how bitch ass you are oh wait your to afraid because I might come to your house and beat your ass. Sorry faggot stick to lifting weights because in the real world your get your ass beat the fuck up. Slammed right on the side walk while your friends watch you get beat up. ANY TIME INTERNET FAGGOT , whats your address bro nah just hit me up on facebook key board man if you wanna actually get fd up in real life, your the key board warrior im one of the fucks on the 12 o clock news that will actually come to your house and fuck you up. Learn who your talking to dipshit I got people that will glady go to you if your within
4 states from me. 
Actually I'll be waiting here in PA, im a key board warrior because im one of the few that will give you my ACTUALL REAL LIFE address if you wanna get fucked up so bad. You want my phone number to probably to pussy to even pick up his phone. Nice pic of yourself of wait you have none cuz your a little skinny bitch. If you don't think I can add 50 pounds on a bench press in one month you are a dumbass. Anytime homo you should give me your facebook so I can see how bitch ass you are oh wait your to afraid because I might come to your house and beat your ass. Sorry faggot stick to lifting weights because in the real world your get your ass beat the fuck up. Slammed right on the side walk while your friends watch you get beat up. ANY TIME INTERNET FAGGOT , whats your address bro nah just hit me up on facebook key board man if you wanna actually get fd up in real life, your the key board warrior im one of the fucks on the 12 o clock news that will actually come to your house and fuck you up. Learn who your talking to dipshit I got people that will glady go to you if your within
nice, i've been to war for bitches like you. did you have the balls to join the marine corps infantry during a time of war? no you were too busy watching jersey shore. and who said i had friends?
brother bundy
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ICEN
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I'm not in a gang but I know people who are bloods you tardo, pirus are the highest rank in the bloods. If you had to google what a piru is then you don't know what they really are pirus arnt a gang they are a rank in the gang, they originally were a gang but now they are a rank in the bloods but much watch gangland more often.i just googled it, it's a street gang based out of california with NO sets in pennsylvania. guess what though "boss", i got a gang too
ICEN
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i never said that you idiot, i know marines that couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag without a rifle. i'll just fuck you up. oh yeah talk shit and have someone else come fight your battles. i bet you still live with your mom you little punk bitch. oh and it's the one that says 205 you fucking idiot. but i see where you were trying to go with that, by showing how advanced you are with the internet and you're "watching me"... i'm so scared. just quit talking shit and show up bitch i need to whoop someone's ass it's been a while.
You mad Bro
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I actualy somewhat agree with what OP is saying, I wouldn't recommend orals only all the time but a couple of PH only cycles per year isn't too bad, even still but it really depends on what compounds they are using, they're all different. I'm running Epistane solo to increase chances of maintaining muscle while I cut, I know I would of been better with test e, but I don't want to break out in spots during post cycle therapy (pct), increase chances of hairline receeding all just for sake of losing weight. 
mlupi319
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I actualy somewhat agree with what OP is saying, I wouldn't recommend orals only all the time but a couple of PH only cycles per year isn't too bad, even still but it really depends on what compounds they are using, they're all different. I'm running Epistane solo to increase chances of maintaining muscle while I cut, I know I would of been better with test e, but I don't want to break out in spots during post cycle therapy (pct), increase chances of hairline receeding all just for sake of losing weight.
And that's completely understandable. The thing is there is at least 1person/week who comes on and post a thread about running a PH/Oral only cycle for 4-8weeks to add 5-10lbs of lean body mass...this is stupid because you're going to shut down your natty test, gain some muscle, but with a 4-8week cycle followed by a 3-4week pct you will lose the majority of your gains while rebooting your natty test production.
It just doesn't make sense to get the nasty sides of having suppressed test during your cycle (lowered libido, lethargy, etc) when your gains are just over what you SHOULD be able to achieve naturally. BUT I understand where you're coming from, as long as the person toting their PH/Oral only cycle knows what he has in store I could care less what he runs.
I have ran PH/Oral only cycles with good results and horrible results, when I bash these kind of cycles it's really just to inform bros of what's in store and what to watch out for--> I'm not one to judge, just trying to drop some knowledge and hopefully improve at least 1 guys cycle in terms of results and side effects
You mad Bro
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It's not impossible to maintain gains, my first PH cycle I actualy gained during PCT and during cycle I was really horny, was on m1t. But I understand what your saying, why run Ph's when you can just run the real stuff.
only a few PHs are worthwhile anyway.
size_matters
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Did you see the guys on the PH forums you're talking about? because what I've seen on PH forums is a bunch of fat fuck wannabes, sure they have big arms, but also have 35%+ bodyfat, and don't know shit! go ahead & do your stupid PH ''cycle'' and give us feedback on sides/results afterwards, actually DON'T because we don't give a fck. I used to be naive just like yourself and did m1t (yes the original m1t), epistane, 4-ad & Anavar (var) solo, not all together of course, trust me those were the most fucked up days of my life. since I've started using REAL gear, only side is acne on cycle & testicular atrophy but I soon regained after during pct (because I still had the test from the injections slowly leaving my system during post cycle therapy (pct), with PH you don't have synthetic test during the cycle and your natty test lowers from the solo PH use. But there's no point in me writing this you'll probably answer something right stupid and do it your way, I don't care, I'm not going to be the one that can't get a hard on.
