Pip?

Dave04

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I just started my cycle 2 days ago. This was my first time injecting. I got some of AML's T300. The shot went good, but all day yesterday and today my glute is killing me! It is difficult to walk and I dont know if its normal to be this bad. It feels like there is a knot about 3 inches around where I shot at. Can anyone relate or give some insight? My buddy said the T300 was thick, and it put the vial in hot water first next time. But id really appreciate any insight.
 
It's likely just virgin muscles. I'm not sure on the T300 in terms of how painful it typical is and I'm sure someone else will chime in on it. Your first cycle tends to be a bit more painful due to your muscles not being use to it. Certain spots for me were ok, then others hurt like hell. Your injection technique could also be the source of unneeded pain, so make sure your technique is on point. Try to keep those hands steady as well. Plenty of post on it etc., but I'll post the first one I found in my bookmarks:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/603290-injection-tips-technique.html

edit: Yes the hot water helps some people....
 
This primarily due to poor injection technique. the tip of the needle is like a blade, and an unsteady hand can cause tears in the fibers. The muscle doesn't like that and will react. You'll probably experience some discomfort for a few days, redness and hardening on that spot. Generally this begins to go away after a few days. If you're unable to maintain a steady hand in that area, consider delts and quads as they're easily accessible. Good idea to rotate your injection sites as well.
 
uhhhh your 5th post and you got your hands on AML? ....Okay... secondly... Yes, thats PIP, and thirdly... is there a lump? if so, you didn't inject correctly
 
I just started my cycle 2 days ago. This was my first time injecting. I got some of AML's T300. The shot went good, but all day yesterday and today my glute is killing me! It is difficult to walk and I dont know if its normal to be this bad. It feels like there is a knot about 3 inches around where I shot at. Can anyone relate or give some insight? My buddy said the T300 was thick, and it put the vial in hot water first next time. But id really appreciate any insight.

Shoot before you workout, find a SAFEWAY to warm up gear, suck it up, pain will go away. My first cycle was Test n Mast Prop, o the pain.....but i sucked it up cuz i aint no bit$h, ya u limp around for a few days but its all about gains baby lol. O n a lump means sumpin went wrong or shady gear? Never had no lumps juss pain, no warmth redness nothing and ive done gluts,venteral glute and thighs. GOOD LUCK!! :)

EDIT: what kinda gauges you using? and how long? Remeber if you can always use a different syringe than the one you draw with because they get dulled even from going through the rubber stopper of the vial
 
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Heating oil for viscosity is a good idea. But heat will not alter any structural elements that may cause discomfort. I tend to include 500mcg of B12 in the syringe to soften the blow.
 
How much did you inject and how long did it take you to do it. IMO it should take you at least 30 seconds or more to push 1ml. Remember that all of that oil will form a bubble in the muscle, and as the bubble grows, it pushes muscle fibers apart and can cause some tearing. The slower you go, the more time the oil has to disperse and work it's way into the fibers without forming a large bubble. The other issue with fast injections is the pressure at the tip of the needle, think pressure washer or water jet, that can also damage/irritate muscle. Warming the oil should help with both of these. Did you have any pain right after the injection? For me, I usually feel fine after an evening pin, but a little sore in the morning, but I mean a little, nothing like you're describing. But it could just be the gear.
 
How much did you inject and how long did it take you to do it. IMO it should take you at least 30 seconds or more to push 1ml. Remember that all of that oil will form a bubble in the muscle, and as the bubble grows, it pushes muscle fibers apart and can cause some tearing. The slower you go, the more time the oil has to disperse and work it's way into the fibers without forming a large bubble. The other issue with fast injections is the pressure at the tip of the needle, think pressure washer or water jet, that can also damage/irritate muscle. Warming the oil should help with both of these. Did you have any pain right after the injection? For me, I usually feel fine after an evening pin, but a little sore in the morning, but I mean a little, nothing like you're describing. But it could just be the gear.

Great explanation regarding slow injections and it's benefits. However, oil pressure from a syringe will not damage muscle fibers. Only the needle itself will.
 
OK, 'damage' might be a bit strong. I did say damage/irritate, but all I was getting at is the faster you push the oil in, the more it displaces muscle fibers and the more it will hurt the next day. It's kind of like getting hit with something versus having that same thing slowly pushed against you. The fast hit will cause a bruise, the slow push will not.
 
300mg per ml is a little on the high side. I'd cut it with cotton seed oil or b12. That running it under hot water isn't gonna do a thing.
 
(10cc Bottle) PER CC: Testosterone Enanthate 100 mg Testosterone Cypionate 100 mg Testosterone Proprionate 100 mg

This is the blend I believe but I am not honored as of yet to get my own.
 
It is fucking insane to think every single detail of using steroids is so complicated. You would think injecting is as easy as jabbing and pusing the plunger down. Or pct was as easy as just taking nolvadex.
 
I totally know what you mean! They should like outlaw it or make you go to a doctor or something. They really should stop selling it at Walmart thinking any bozo can figure it out without reading the instructions.
 
I totally know what you mean! They should like outlaw it or make you go to a doctor or something. They really should stop selling it at Walmart thinking any bozo can figure it out without reading the instructions.

If they sold it at walmart do you think there would be so many obese people?
 
Thanks for all the feedback everyone! Its now been about 70 hours since the injection and the pain has subsided slightly. Still walk a bit funny and difficult to get in and out of my car lol. However, after looking more closely, I apparantly shot a bit below the upper outer quadrant of my glute...more like hip area. There is some redness now too. I did inject 1 cc, forgot to mention that. I also used a 1 inch needle for the vial and 1 and 1/2 inch for the injection. And yes I pushed the plunger in slowly (about 30 seconds) and then massaged the area for a couple mins. But im gonna chalk it up to a rookie mistake and be more observant for tomorrows shot. And yes, its got 100 mgs of test e, c and p. Thanks again everyone!
 
So we know to go slow when injecting but is there a time maximum? Like 3 mins for 1cc? Or once you pass the min. of 30 sec as stated above you're ok?
 
So we know to go slow when injecting but is there a time maximum? Like 3 mins for 1cc? Or once you pass the min. of 30 sec as stated above you're ok?

A time maximum? You're over thinking it. If you're going slow and say have half a cc left that would mean when you hit a certain time mark, you should plunge the remaining in. Just go slow as was stated above, and don't worry about how long it takes. If you think it's taking too long, then go a bit quicker. See how your injection site reacts. Over time you will get use to it.
 
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