Popping the cherry!

[Rougen123]

Want to kick this post off by thanking ya'll for following me! Especially for the last couple posts. I can't agree with ya'll more I think I went into this with the wrong mentality/expectations. Your right jj I was expecting heroin for my muscles lol! Today definatly felt different. On some of my sets I did more reps later on, in the sets with heavier weight than I would of done normally because I was able to, not to mention it helps to have a friend to compete against, he did mention that he noticed alot more hair growth on my chest/stomach which I have also seemed to notice in the last week or so. Just felt a little bit different today in the gym, especially on my dorian rows. I ran the **** for the equivalent of two entire 10+mL vials, increasing dosages toward the end to try and get SOMETHING out of it.




BACK;
DORIAN ROWS;65X12,135X8,155X8,165X6,165X12,175X4,185X8
STANDING W LIFTS(two sets standing, two sets seated);30X8,40X8,30X8,40X8
STANDING 1-LEGGED DB ROWS;55X6,60X8,60X8
LAT PULLDOWN(the pull down at the gym I worked out at today has a really rough cable so I assume about 15lbs heavier than the weights I put on, note I didn't calculate that into this exercises, so you can add them yourself);100X8,118X8,128X8,138X6,158X4
PULL UPS; I'm pretty pathetic at them, did about two sets of 5 and then was just too pumped up and did another set of about 8 with a spotter and alot of help.
CLOSE GRIP(with the close gripped v-bar)-LATPULL DOWN(same roughness on cable);98X8,108X8,128X6

Then did about 5-8 minutes of abs with short breaks

To give a little bit more emphasis on the roughness of the cable on the pull down machine, when I go to Gold's I can get up to 170lbs on the pulldown machines, whereas at this place I can only make it to about 155ish

I think I can feel the test.....

 

[Liftbig11]

Where's some update and stand point pics? Got to see what your workin with and some gains bro! I will also be doing a syntrop/ax cycle here pretty soon. I'll let you know if it's bunk Cant wait I'm working with a new blend. Got my hands on samples baby! No need for me to hijack just excited hah.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I'm sorry but out of the thousands that have used **** There are always a few complainers. Didn't you only run the test for 3 weeks? I guess your ambro is bunk to then? I just don't see how this all goes together.

i guess because its easyer to blam it on others like the lab then see its yourself or maybe you WHERE EXPECTING MAGIC and way too much.

 

[Liftbig11]

Yeah well everyone can't be happy and that's all good

 

[Rougen123]

Where's some update and stand point pics? Got to see what your workin with and some gains bro! I will also be doing a syntrop/ax cycle here pretty soon. I'll let you know if it's bunk Cant wait I'm working with a new blend. Got my hands on samples baby! No need for me to hijack just excited hah.

I'm pretty much in the same place I started bro, been hovering around 185, BF seems to be about in the same area aswell (not sure what it is, maybe somewhere in the 13-15 range) strength hasn't gone anyone outside of normal limits. I've definatly upped the diet aswell, getting at least 25-35 more grams of protein a day, taking in alot more clean fats, and complex carbs on a daily basis. I'm just not sure, maybe it was just underdosed.

i guess because its easyer to blam it on others like the lab then see its yourself or maybe you WHERE EXPECTING MAGIC and way too much.

I mean it wasn't my diet or training though, only two explanations I've got is either; I was expecting magic, or it was underdosed. I've read countless posts about how "magical" first AAS cycles are for virgin users, and how 20lbs gain is common. I'm working like a beast bro.


Either way I think I'm beginging to feel it coming on. Will be doing 10th inectjion for 1.5ml in the next 10minutes. Took today off cause my body is just beat, sore everywhere.

 

[Liftbig11]

How many cals do you get a day honestly?

 

[Rougen123]

How many cals do you get a day honestly?

To be totally honest I've never broken down my macro's for a daily basis but I can give you an outline.

BF; 5 egg whites, 1/2 oat meal mix with 1/4 cup milk (eat like cereal), and 1 1/2 scoops of ON whey
Snack; Depending on the whole wheat bread I've got, I'll use 1-2 slices (go for about 20-25g of complex carbs) and aprox 1 1/2tbls of almond butter
Lunch; the meat varries, it ranges from turkey, steak, chicken, meat loaf, fish but I always do weigh that out and eat no less than 11oz, then some type of carb I really try and go for complex and most of the time it's brown rice, sometimes white other times yams, and recently been trying to get more fiber so I've been bringing salads, cucumber salad, for example just had like 12 little tomatoes today
Snack(Pre-w); protein bar, fruit juice or an actual fruit
PWO; just got ON hydro-isolate about a week ago been using 1 1/2 scoops of that (aprox 45gram pro) before that I was just using ON standard whey 2 scoops, recently have been having 2 juice boxes (roughly 40-50 simple carbs) but if I don't have those I'll go with a fruit or kool-aid mix
PWO meal; 12-14oz what ever meat I'm having for dinner, same applies for this as lunch, and a carb (this is my largest portion of carbs for the day other than PWO) and same as lunch; been trying to get more veggies so what ever I've got thats green haha
Night time snack; Jacked this meal up since I started my cycle, it has consisted of 4-5 egg whites, and one whole egg, and some type of lean red/white meat. For instance, I'm making myself about 8oz fish right now.
Bedtime; 1 scoop ON standard whey, 1 1/2 scoops ON standard caesin

Since I started cycle I've increased my meat intakes from 6-10oz to nothing less than 10oz in sittings(other than my night time meal). And I've jacked up my night time meal after PWO meal which used to consist of only egg whites, but in this sitting I'll only intake anywhere from 4-8oz in this sitting). Been trying to get in more veggies and fiber aswell so my lunch has more veggies, PWO meal has more veggies, and night time meal has more veggies.

Would love some input from you 3j

 

[Rougen123]

Just did 11th injection. Did my first ever glute injection. Went alot smoother than I thought it would but I moved the needle alot so I'm sure it will be really sore tomorrow...Nothing out of the ordinary to report. Strength is progressing within normal limits, weight is sticking around 184-187, libido has been up. Trying to decide wether or not to buy some prop and dbol. Bump on the diet I posted.

 

[Liftbig11]

Dam bro people gain huge amounts usually off their first cycle. Even with diff gear you havnt seemed to change in either weight or size. Sounds like to me that getting prop and dbol would be a waste.

 

[jjtattoofreak]

I dunno what to tell you rougen, Somethin just aint adding up homie.... I mean I eat like a fucking pig and I am bout 25 pounds up... My fucking feet are killing me, lol.. You sure your eating enough ? Try to eat a little dirty man, something, maybe its to clean, I aint sure what your metabolism is but mines fast so I took advice and got it a little dirty..

 

[jjtattoofreak]

Maybe the juicing aint for you... I mean you gave AX** a bad rap, and I am running what you are as are others and you still aint gainning, it dont sound like it is the Juice sounds like its the Juicer... So in all maybe AX** was nt bunk ??? Or will we have some conspiracy theroy come from all this ??? lol

 

[Liftbig11]

Yeah haha I don't know about anyone else but ax1o turned out great for me.

 

[jjtattoofreak]

I ve never run it homie, but I aint never heard bad wither so I am just seeing waht Rougen thinks, and maybe he will re tract his bash on them, since he still aint gainning ?? Maybe not. LOL

 

[Liftbig11]

Well I have and it's great stuff. Hopefully all comes out and if you are not happy with the ax then please send it my way for testing

 

[Rougen123]

I dunno what to tell you rougen, Somethin just aint adding up homie.... I mean I eat like a fucking pig and I am bout 25 pounds up... My fucking feet are killing me, lol.. You sure your eating enough ? Try to eat a little dirty man, something, maybe its to clean, I aint sure what your metabolism is but mines fast so I took advice and got it a little dirty..

I'll increase the pro/carbs/fats. I mean fuck I'm trying over here, no bull shit. My metabolism used to be a little bit faster than it is now IMO. I used to have no prob with my stomach/abs but now their hidden under some fat, and I've got some what of a power gut going.

Well I have and it's great stuff. Hopefully all comes out and if you are not happy with the ax then please send it my way for testing

I'll definatly give ax10 another chance. It might be possible that the stuff won in the competion just wasn't that good. Either way you have to understand this is and still is my first cycle and I had really high expectations. If I still had the stuff won in the comp I woulda gladly sent it to you lol.
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Aside from all this I did notice an increase in strength today. I was starting my excercises on my first set with the weight I had previously done my second set on the week before, and was ending up anywhere between 5-10lbs higher on my last sets. Nothing dramatic but definatly a good sign, I'm sure the same will be true next week. My libido has definatly been up, been watching shit loads of p0rn to compensate haha. Have also noticed increased hair growth on my face/stomach/chest, have also noted very very mild acne on my chest/traps. Besides that nothing else to report. I should also mention that over the last 3 weeks ( 3 back workouts) my (regular grip/v bar close grip) lat pull has increased about 10 lbs each week, and my cable row went from ending at 110, to ending at 130 over the last maybe....2-2 1/2 weeks. I feel that maybe the reason this first cycle wasn't as miraculous for me as it is for most is because of this; I've mentioned this other times in my thread but I really want to emphasize the fact that when I did my first PP 1ttren topical cycle I went from something like 168-193. So my feeling is that I've already had my "first" cycle and it will be more difficult from here out. Sorry for the rant, thanks for following me bro'z!

 

[snigg]

bro you need to step it up and start fucking lifting. im not trying to be a dickhead, but the weight you're throwing around is petty, ESPECIALLY for a 185'er that's 5 weeks into a test cycle!!!! I mean you're DL'ing 245lbs and DB benching 80lb dumbbells. I see 140lb'ers at the gym doing that all day.

Dont take my post the wrong way, but you need a kick in the ass bro. start fucking eating, and start lifting some heavy weight. It's not the test, it's not "not kicking in because you're injecting in your quads"....it's YOU. sorry man, i think someone needed to say it.

 

[jjtattoofreak]

snigg I believe I stated that in a more political way, lmao good slap in the face snigg....lol

 

[jjtattoofreak]

Maybe the juicing aint for you... I mean you gave AX** a bad rap, and I am running what you are as are others and you still aint gainning, it dont sound like it is the Juice sounds like its the Juicer... So in all maybe AX** was nt bunk ??? Or will we have some conspiracy theroy come from all this ??? lol

^^

 

[TommyTrainR]

Interesting...

 

[Liftbig11]

Would have to agree as I also stated. Your training sounds like you havnt been lifting serious for to long.