prami advice not sure about adding to my current cycle

Again i didnt say they were the same thing and this has nothing to do with the question i asked about in the first place adding prami to increase gh levels . And no mate i wont be crying to anyone ive had bloods done before and after evrey cycle and evreything has been fine so i must be doing something right and theres literally thousands of studies were adex and tamox have been used not together but in separated groups to reach the same desired results but the way your carrying on it sounds like your e levels arnt in check i didnt asked to get spoken down to just asked a simple question about prami if you cant answer without being rude or condescending dont answer at all
 
I didnt mean adex i ment prami my bad and relation to gh levels not anything about est levels prami rises gh levels so do peptides i said nothing about est sides nothing i was talking about raising gh levels
 
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not evreyone uses adex but maybe if you had any idea of what your talking about you would know that

For one your not a woman with breast cancer and two I stated one is not a substitute for the other. Your gonna call me out that I dont know what im talking about?? Really?? Run prami with test and im the idiot?? If you cant take answers dont ask questions or come back with BS responses.

good luck with that
 
Again i didnt say they were the same thing and this has nothing to do with the question i asked about in the first place adding prami to increase gh levels . And no mate i wont be crying to anyone ive had bloods done before and after evrey cycle and evreything has been fine so i must be doing something right and theres literally thousands of studies were adex and tamox have been used not together but in separated groups to reach the same desired results but the way your carrying on it sounds like your e levels arnt in check i didnt asked to get spoken down to just asked a simple question about prami if you cant answer without being rude or condescending dont answer at all

Well if you didn't come off like an idiot, you wouldn't have even asked your original question and then carry on about your ignorance in relation to how much you know about what your doing. So, who's crying???
 
my point in the last post is essentially this -- raising 'natural' growth hormone levels does not do anything beneficial for anabolism, bodybuilding or performance purposes. nothing. just like raising 'natural' testosterone levels with a natural test booster does nothing beneficial for muscle gain. even if your levels can naturally 'go up' that does nothing for you in regards to building muscle as it will never be enough to initiate an anabolic response.

indogenous HGH or Test is NOT linear in regards to anabolism . meaning that as natural levels go up, anabolism does NOT equally go up as well , , it does not work that way. 100 points higher on the scale does not mean 100 points higher towards anabolism . in fact, 100 points higher on the scale does not effect it at all. You have to get to super physiological levels in order to initiate the anabolic response.

wither it is growth hormone or testosterone , it is impossible to get to super physiological levels without injecting that actual compound itself. Increasing natural production does not 'flip the switch' and turn on an anabolic response ..

ok , are slightly higher natural testosterone or GH levels good for you ? Can they have some slight benefits, maybe. But they in no way aide in muscle building over and above what is naturally occurring anyways.. again, its not linear, more natural production does nothing more for you.

example. a guy that has test levels of 450 , if he increased naturally his test levels to 550 , , that 100 point increase would do NOTHING more in regards to anabolism or muscle building. however , a guy that has low testosterone and a natural deficiency , if you correct that problem and you get him up to 550 , he could get an anabolic response out of that .. and in the same way a guy that has naturally high testosterone levels, he would need to run a cycle in order to get to super physiological levels of test (2000+) to get an anabolic response. . IF this was linear, then sure , all things going up in values would all go up in value together (more test would mean more anabolism, but it does not work that way) ..

its the same way with GH . you can increase your natural production sure , but that will not increase anabolism or muscle building . you need a super physiological dose to 'turn on' that switch .


if I had a pill to sell you that promised to increase your natural testosterone or growth hormone by 100 % , would you buy it from me? probably , 100% increase sounds like a lot , yes . BUT, that 100% natural increase does not do anything for you!! so your paying for nothing but a number . so what that you increase 100% it means nothing (unless you had a natural deficiency to begin with, then a restoration could be of value).

If prami increased your natural GH production by 20% , so what . that would mean noting in regards to 'gains', you would benefit nothing in performance either .. and you'll prob end up sick to your stomach from the prami.

hope that makes some sense :)
 
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This discussion is still going on? Lol Adex, no prami and stick to peps due to cost. Case closed lol and tamox for PCT with other ancillaries which I assume you know of!
 
Yea roush that makes sense cheers brother i think your the only person who understood what i was asking and didn't just talk shit for the sake of it thanks again
 
Tbone my original question wasnt stupid its a well known fact that prami raises gh levels all i wanted to know is if it was enough of an increase to worry about throwing it into my cycle or not as id did google it and got mixed info on it so i thought id ask the boys on here there was no stupid question just stupid judgments and answers from you
 
Tbone my original question wasnt stupid its a well known fact that prami raises gh levels all i wanted to know is if it was enough of an increase to worry about throwing it into my cycle or not as id did google it and got mixed info on it so i thought id ask the boys on here there was no stupid question just stupid judgments and answers from you

Your back peddling now bud. You wanted to use prami instead of an ai. Then you mentioned using hgh to replace peps and/or prami. You then said how nolva and adex are the same thing. You should keep asking more questions because you need more answers...
 
Are you slow i never said anything about using prami as an ai i said i purchased it for prolactin issues and ed becuse i was going to be using deca or tren for the first time and was being cautious i never said anything about pct or ocs until ad ex was brought up by someone else i had no questions about pct it was about the benifits of prami nothing else how is it that roush knew exactly whats being said if im backpeddeling no you are wrong and if you cant admit it thats fine but dont call me out ive said nothing wrong
 
Hey B, dont sweat it bro!! Take what u can use and leave the rest. Ive found that most guys, no matter how they seem to come off, are actually trying to help. You know the ones that are just trolling around threads. Tbone knows his stuff. Just take it with a grain of salt and do what you do. You may as well log your gains on this thread homie!! lol. U about to get swole;-)
 
Thanks bro appreciate it . Yea tbone knows his stuff thats the disappointing part in my second post on the thread i made it fairly clear what i was asking and why but still got nothing back but condescending rubbish but whats done is done . Yea bro might aswell do a log why not . And just a heads up for your next cycle throw in some lgd been on this stuff for 3 days and the strength and vascularity increases are crazy 3 days awesome stuff
 
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