proviron vs. masteron

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for those who have taken both, what are the differences? I have no personal experience as I have taken neither, but it seems as though they would be quite similar except for the libido increase of proviron.

-increased hardness
-highly androgenic
-doesnt put on much weight, if any
-good for use pre-contest



it seems as though they would almost be interchangable. What am i missing here?
 
Masteron will give you a serious libido boost, I don't know where you read otherwise.

As for main differences? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is that masteron is more anabolic than proviron.

I think johnnyb and pullinbig have used both, they might chime in here.
 
Proviron isnt a "steroid" that produces gains.

Proviron stops estrogen from aromatising.

Masteron is a AAS.

They are completely different compounds that do completely different things?
 
Proviron if far, very far from being anabolic. It gives good pump, libido boost, good for pre-contest use, no fat or water at all, but Masteron is something else! Proviron is not an AAS...
 
LAWNSAVER said:
Proviron isnt a "steroid" that produces gains.

Proviron stops estrogen from aromatising.

Masteron is a AAS.

They are completely different compounds that do completely different things?


LAWNSAVER said:
I guess that they are somewhat similar.

I would have never compared them, since masteron is not so popular.


Whoa there! I think I just hurt my neck trying to follow that!

That's quite an about-face there, care to explain?
 
Mr. dB said:
Whoa there! I think I just hurt my neck trying to follow that!

That's quite an about-face there, care to explain?

I never actually read the profile on Masteron...

Its actions are very similar, just one is oral and one is an injectable.

Masteron is androgenic, and not very anabolic. Proviron is similar. Although you would need to take more than triple the weekly dose to get similar results, at the end of that cycle I can see similar results.

Say you take 400mg of Masteron a week. It is highly androgenic, which will increase libido and cause extremely hard appearance

I would assume you would have to take around 150-200mg of proviron daily to get very similar results.

Remember proviron is not c17aa, so its readily broken down, hence the larger dose.

If there was a injectable proviron, I would guess a dose similar to that of masteron, would produce very similar results.
 
Proviron is indeed an aas. It also is not an anti-e. Clomid would be a better choice for an anti-e than proviron.

I still would like to know where this rumor got started about proviron being an anti-e.
 
TxLonghorn said:

I still would like to know where this rumor got started about proviron being an anti-e.

http://www.steroidology.com/profiles/drugs/proviron.htm

Among athletes Proviron is primarily used as an anti-estrogen. It is believed to act as an anti-aromatase in the body, preventing or slowing the conversion of steroids into estrogen. The result is somewhat comparable to Arimidex (though less profound), the drug acting to prevent the buildup of estrogen in the body. This is in direct contrast to Nolvadex, which only blocks the ability of estrogen to bind and activate receptors in certain tissues. The anti-aromatization effect is preferred, as it is a more direct and efficient means of dealing with the problem of estrogenic side effects.

The anti-estrogenic properties of Proviron are not unique to this compound. A number of steroids have in fact demonstrated similar activity. Dihydrotestosterone and Masteron (2methyl-dihydrotestosterone) for example have been successfully used as therapies for gynecomastia and breast cancer due to their strong anti-estrogenic effect. It has been suggested that nandrolone may even lower aromatase activity in peripheral tissues where it is more resistant to estrogen conversion (the most active site of nandrolone aromatization seems to be the liver). The anti-estrogenic effect of all of these compounds is presumably caused by their ability to compete with other substrates for binding to the aromatase enzyme. With the aromatase enzyme bound to the steroid, yet being unable to alter it, and inhibiting effect is achieved as it is temporarily blocked from interacting with other hormones.
 
"Both steroids are DHT derivatives, yes, and because of this there is no estrogen conversion possible with either drug. They lack a structural trait necessary for their conversion to estrogen. This characteristic may also allow both steroids to offer some level of anti-estrogenic activity, as the non-aromatizable steroid may compete with other aromatizable steroids (like your own endogenous testosterone) for binding to the aromatase enzyme. This should lower estrogen levels and heighten the ratio of relative androgenic to estrogenic activity in the body."
 
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Proviron is indeed an aas. It also is not an anti-e. Clomid would be a better choice for an anti-e than proviron.

I still would like to know where this rumor got started about proviron being an anti-e.

No shit. Seems that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) misinformation is getting tossed around a lot lately re: proviron. It will help reduce the aromatization rate of test to E2 but it is NOT an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Having an "anti-estrogenic effect" is not the same as being an "aromatse inhibitor". If you're looking to proviron to act as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a cycle as an alternative to arimidex or aromasin you're going to probably have issues.

It's also most definitely an AAS. It's not a very anabolic AAS, but it is in the family. I think most people run it as a compliment to a cycle that includes a 19-nor compound (tred, deca) in order to help offset the erectile dysfunction issues and to assist in boosting the benefits of any exogenous test being run during a cycle. I'm running 75mg ED right now and it has been an effective wood enhancer.
 
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No shit. Seems that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) misinformation is getting tossed around a lot lately re: proviron. It will help reduce the aromatization rate of test to E2 but it is NOT an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Having an "anti-estrogenic effect" is not the same as being an "aromatse inhibitor". If you're looking to proviron to act as an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during a cycle as an alternative to arimidex or aromasin you're going to probably have issues.

It's also most definitely an AAS. It's not a very anabolic AAS, but it is in the family. I think most people run it as a compliment to a cycle that includes a 19-nor compound (tred, deca) in order to help offset the erectile dysfunction issues and to assist in boosting the benefits of any exogenous test being run during a cycle. I'm running 75mg ED right now and it has been an effective wood enhancer.

If you didnt notice the post originated in 2004. Alot of learning has taken place since then
 
HA! Nope -- didn't see that. Hey, thanks for the zombie thread JTVISION!! lol... :axe:

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Profiles - Steroidology.com

Among athletes Proviron is primarily used as an anti-estrogen. It is believed to act as an anti-aromatase in the body, preventing or slowing the conversion of steroids into estrogen. The result is somewhat comparable to Arimidex (though less profound), the drug acting to prevent the buildup of estrogen in the body. This is in direct contrast to Nolvadex, which only blocks the ability of estrogen to bind and activate receptors in certain tissues. The anti-aromatization effect is preferred, as it is a more direct and efficient means of dealing with the problem of estrogenic side effects.

The anti-estrogenic properties of Proviron are not unique to this compound. A number of steroids have in fact demonstrated similar activity. Dihydrotestosterone and Masteron (2methyl-dihydrotestosterone) for example have been successfully used as therapies for gynecomastia and breast cancer due to their strong anti-estrogenic effect. It has been suggested that nandrolone may even lower aromatase activity in peripheral tissues where it is more resistant to estrogen conversion (the most active site of nandrolone aromatization seems to be the liver). The anti-estrogenic effect of all of these compounds is presumably caused by their ability to compete with other substrates for binding to the aromatase enzyme. With the aromatase enzyme bound to the steroid, yet being unable to alter it, and inhibiting effect is achieved as it is temporarily blocked from interacting with other hormones.

Finally an educated response this thread was getting pretty loaded...
 
BUMP ^^^^ Wich is worse for hairloss, in their respectable doses? Thanks

Masteron is much more anabolic, but it also will be harder on the hairline when compared to proviron IMO, but everyone is different. I see masteron as part of a cycle along with test, but proviron is kind of an addition to a cycle sort of like a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or something because its not really anabolic per say, but it works in a synergistic way along with test to improve libido and reduce estro etc. Technically proviron is the oral for of masteron, but they do not act the same way in the body.
 
I know both are very similar to the DHT molecule and I've heard both bind to the SHBG to make your juice more effective. I'm wondering, mg for mg does either have an advantage over the other for use in a cycle. Since theyre both so similar to DHT i wonder if one is a better derivative than the other.

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