reversal of gyno

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quasimodo

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I found this on UK-iron, what do you think?? I was written by a guy called ross, he is however now banned from their to reasons i do not know.

Vitamin B-6(Pyridoxine): 200mgs ED
Zinc: 50mgs ED
Calcium-Magnesium: 1000mgs/500mgs ED
Arimidex, 1mg ED
Oral Winstrol or Turinabol, 100mgs ED
Masteron, 100mgs EOD



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I will be writing an article for M&F, so when it is published I will release it to the boards.

In the meantime, if you have tried EVERYTHING to eliminate your gyno with little or NO success--give my REMEDY a shot. I put my name on it.

Gyno has many causes. The MAIN cause however, is a POOR Androgen:Estrogen ratio. Other causes are Estrogen, PROLACTIN, Progesterone imbalance, Increased SHBG, and MINERAL IMBALANCES.

THIS SHIT WORKS! This stack will ultimately REVERSE GYNO.

The stack will:


CORRECT ANDROGEN:ESTROGEN RATIO
DECREASE TOTAL AROMATASE
DECREASE TOTAL 5ALPHA-REDUCTASE
ELIMINATE ESTROGEN
ELIMINATE PROLACTIN
BALANCE PROGESTERONE
INCREASE FREE TESTOSTERONE
DECREASE SHBG
CORRECT MINERAL IMBALANCES


Anabolic steroids have a significant effect on your MINERAL BALANCE. Imbalances of minerals can cause EDEMA(water-retention), increased PROLACTIN, INCREASED ESTROGEN, DECREASED TESTOSTERONE, DECREASED FREE TESTOSERONE, and loss of BONE and MUSCLE!

The stack I have outlined above WORKS. I have used it personally, as have many of my clients. I have tons of scientific data to validate my claims.

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He was banned for being an ass, he's also banned on SSB, Steroid.com and I think maybe here too.

However, that stack would probably help reduce gyno. Any DHT derivative could technically reduce gyno..see here

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3088241&dopt=Abstract

"
Four boys with persistent pubertal gynecomastia were given intramuscular dihydrotestosterone heptanoate (DHT-hp) at 2 to 4-week intervals for 16 weeks. By the end of treatment, breast size in all four boys had decreased 67% to 78%. Initial plasma levels of gonadotropins, estradiol, testosterone, and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) were normal. Mean plasma DHT concentration rose with the injections of DHT-hp, and remained elevated throughout the treatment period. Estradiol, LH, FSH, and testosterone decreased during treatment, as did 24-hour urinary LH and FSH. No regrowth of breast tissue was observed 6 to 15 months after treatment, although hormone concentrations had returned to near pretreatment values by 2 months after the last injection. DHT-hp has potential to be an effective medical therapy for persistent pubertal gynecomastia."
 
Also narkissos ran a cycle similar to this and said it reduced his gyno.

He ran high masteron, high Winstrol (winny) and low test. I think it was 500 masteron a week, 200-250 test and 150mg Winstrol (winny) ed
 
Ross is banned on most sites, he has obviously read some people work but his application is usually incorrect.

high doses of b-6 reduce sex hormone receptor expression, though it reduces the AR just as much if not more.

nothing wrong with zinc at those dosages

winstrol can help with gyno, though it can also make it worse in some cases.

turinabol will not help with gyno and can worsen it.


arimidex is by far and away the WORST Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for reducing gynecomastia

Masteron can help with gyno that is due to estrogen as can proviron (masteron may be more effective- dht modulation of the ER)


a real gyno reduction stack

AI- aromasin, AIFM or letrozole (dosages will vary by need)

dopaminergic- cabaser (cabergoline) .5mg ed or bromocriptine (less preferred due to prevalence of sides) .75 to 2.5mg ed

masteron or proviron may be used, but generally with the above are unnecessary
 
only thing I have seen that has worked was nolva over a period of at least a month or more, but its tough to get rid of it once you have it...I had a lump that I managed to decrease by maybe 50% using nolva for a few months
 
frankiedawrench said:
how long would u run that for macro?
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really depends on whether on or off cycle and basically how long it takes to reverse the growth. (which can be anywhere from 2-8weeks, more if growth is very significant and/or still on cycle (especially if still using progestins- nandrolone, trenbolone, etc)

also a lower dose run afterwards to insure it does not recurr
 
what is a good way to reduce gyno from puberty? losing bodyfat has def helped me, but my chest doesnt have that nice shape because of it
 
could you be more decriptive, hard tissue? nipple puffyness? chest fat?

the features of the condition do make a difference in the course of action
 
macro said:
Ross is banned on most sites, he has obviously read some people work but his application is usually incorrect.

high doses of b-6 reduce sex hormone receptor expression, though it reduces the AR just as much if not more.

nothing wrong with zinc at those dosages

winstrol can help with gyno, though it can also make it worse in some cases.

turinabol will not help with gyno and can worsen it.


arimidex is by far and away the WORST Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for reducing gynecomastia

Masteron can help with gyno that is due to estrogen as can proviron (masteron may be more effective- dht modulation of the ER)


a real gyno reduction stack

AI- aromasin, AIFM or letrozole (dosages will vary by need)

dopaminergic- cabaser (cabergoline) .5mg ed or bromocriptine (less preferred due to prevalence of sides) .75 to 2.5mg ed

masteron or proviron may be used, but generally with the above are unnecessary
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Interesting...I wasn't aware that b6 reduced the AR.

Also, how might turinabol make gyno worse? Also what would oxandrolone do if you had gyno? I know it could stop test production, but if you had gyno and were taking letro, couldn't that be a good thing, reducing test and having non-aromatizing AAS?
 
macro said:
could you be more decriptive, hard tissue? nipple puffyness? chest fat?

the features of the condition do make a difference in the course of action
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i have nipple puffiness if they are not hard along with tissue inside. i mean it looks way better when i lose fat becaue my nipples arent so visible through a tshirt, but it just doesnt look like a normal chest. whn i was in 8th grade i was 5' 8" 250lbs and developed gyno. i can post pics if needed
 
please more input here.. Macro adex is the worst for gyno? my dr. gave me to use? i thought others have used with success? i am having major issue with puffy sore nipps pls help? b-6?
 
yari777 said:
please more input here.. Macro adex is the worst for gyno? my dr. gave me to use? i thought others have used with success? i am having major issue with puffy sore nipps pls help? b-6?
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worst means least effective (of the aromatase inhibitors- a very potent sulfatase inhibitor but only a moderate aromatase inhibitor- except at higher doses). and some people use arimidex with good results.

cabaser is what you want to suppress prolactin.
 
Yes very good thread
What is cabaser or prolactin?
I have no breast tissue but very sagy fat boobs, letro nothing.nolva nothing..even cee makes my boobs big wtf?
 
The only thing I have used was exemestane. I used it along with nolva for my post cycle therapy (pct) and my gyno went away. I thought exemestane worked extremely well for me.
 
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