Stack:igf-des,mgf, igf-l3; advice needed!!

[fitstar]

Hi there,

wanna run a stack of IGF-des preworkout, igf-ec (Mgf) postworkout and maybe add igf-l3 one hour after the mgf shot.

Would this work like this:

Immediately pre: Shoot igf-des im into the muscles that I work that day (100mg per side).
Sip on aminos+carbs throughout workout which is 45-60 minutes.
Immediately post: Shoot igf-ec (mgf) im into the same muscles, also 100mg per side. No shake there as I have heard this cancels mgf out. True or false?
1 hour after mgf: Shoot igf-l3+post workout shake.100mg per side.

1 hour later: big meal with carbs, protein and fat.

What do you think of this?

How long can I run this cycle before it becomes ineffective?

Originally, I wanted to order from one of the forum sponsors but I do not own a credit card. So, ergopep accepts other forms of payment and it has the 2mg vial of mgf for just 9$. Have you heard from that company? Which is your favourite brand/company bacause I really wanna good products!!

Again, I apologize for my bad English!!

Any help appreciated!!

 

[UserAt204]

Looks good. You actually did you research. You can decide for yourself on a shake during the mgf inject, and I think it's fine the way you have it now but move the igf lr3 to about 2-8 hours post mgf if you can.

Give them an opportunity to work. Or just stick to your plan which looks great. One of the best benefits to igf is it's insulin like effects, shuttling of nutrients, so a meal is great where you have it but I personally will add shakes anytime I inject igf and I'm not a fan of shakes at all but bcaa's, protiens, you should load up on during that time.

 

[fitstar]

thanks!!

you say, that it is better to leave 2-8 hours between mgf and igf-l3,
as i have the opportunity to work out twice a day, i coul run the cycle like this:

morning workout, pre: Igf-des and post mgf.

evening workout, pre: Igf-des (or is twice a day too much?) and here igf-l3 post.

Good or bad? And is a 30 day cycle or even a 50 day cycle better?

By the way, can I use an insulin needle or should I shoot deep into the muscle like I do with deca?

Finally, my left biceps is not as big as my right. So when working bis, should I only shoot into the weak side and no injections in the right side?

THANKS!!!

PS: Any reviews to ergopep?

 

[Stone]

You could do the second plan...
No need to wait so long after the MGF for the lr3. The mgf will clear within 20-30min, I'd hit the lr3 at this time.
Also the IGF doses are pretty high... The lr3 is EXTREMELY high. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of what most would consider high dosing. But more is not necessarily better with IGF. You can only create so many satellite cells. You be better of dosing more often with lower doses. Say 100mcg DES then 50-75lr3
Also I prefer do attempt to even out symetry by doing just what you said. Inject in the side that is lagging for whatever body part. May be nothing to this theory, but you gotta pin somewhere and this makes sense to me.

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

less is more with IGF those dosages will hurt you more than help. it doesn't work "better" at high dosages. 1st timer go with 40mcg's. http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/623681-dave-palumbo-igf-1-a.html (see part on effect dosages)

injecting into muscle isnt gunna bring that part up.

slin pin is fine you can go IM if you want too

4 weeks on then 4 weeks off.

there's too many igf injections and your cycle is way to complicated for my life but let us know how it goes..

i ran 33-40mcgs of IGF-LR3 post work and 100mcgs of GHRP6 AM (upon waking) and PM (b4 bed). on cycle i had sick results also did well off cycle.

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

(8)EFFICTIVE DOSAGES OF igf-1
Dosages in the range of 10 to 20 micrograms per day(taken 10 to 15 minuters after training) are quite effective for building and repairing muscle tissue.
More importantly,these moderate dosages (by some peoples estimation)
stimulate muscle growth yet escape rapid "downregulation" of the all important igf-1 receptors.
Without receptors to recognize the igf-1,it doesnt matter how much you inject.
NOTHING will happen.
As dosages climb to over 50 micrograms per day,receptor downgrade increases exponentially and,from what I've observed among bodybuilders,muscle gains come to a screeching hault.

Bodybuilders will have the most sucess with igf-1 if they follow the protocol I outlined below. REMEMBER, more isn't always better.

11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 1) 333 micrograms

2 weeks OFF

11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 2)** 333 micrograms

2 weeks OFF

11 micrograms per day for 30 days (cycle 3)** 333 micrograms

8 weeks OFF

 

[fitstar]

better to run igf-1+des, igf-l3 in another cycle?

hey guys,

thanks for ya help!! Ok, more is not better...

So, would you recommend that I run the des+igf in my first cycle for 30 days, take a little time of and then try maybe igf-l3 on its own?

By the way, can if I lower the doses as you suggested, then can I simply shoot the des preworkout without an intrashake. I simply hate drinking shakes during training...
Post the igf, can I drink my postshake with the shoot or do I have to wait after the shoot?

I am really happy that you help me out soo much. Great, that I can use a slin pin...

One of you recommended another peptid. Would you recommend adding a peptid and if so, which one?

THANKS AGAIN!!!

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

hey guys,

thanks for ya help!! Ok, more is not better...

So, would you recommend that I run the des+igf in my first cycle for 30 days, take a little time of and then try maybe igf-l3 on its own?

By the way, can if I lower the doses as you suggested, then can I simply shoot the des preworkout without an intrashake. I simply hate drinking shakes during training...
Post the igf, can I drink my postshake with the shoot or do I have to wait after the shoot?

I am really happy that you help me out soo much. Great, that I can use a slin pin...

One of you recommended another peptid. Would you recommend adding a peptid and if so, which one?

THANKS AGAIN!!!

des needs spot injections - 1/2" insulin pin, IM inj.

lr3 subq and yes shakes are fine with it actually encouraged (thats why i use this PWO instead of GHRP have to wait 30mins)

GHRP/CJC - id probably run ghrp6 with or without cjc w out DAC; when you drop the IGF for a break continue GHRP 5 x's a week or bouce between the two.

SARM's mk-2866 @25mg per day