Steroids to use with Growth Hormone

[blue_pill]

I'm 5'8" tall, 196lbs, 14%BF.
really interested in using GH, have now got supplies to use 4IU daily for 6 months to cut my BF.
Have used Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) before- 2 courses: testosterone enanthate and sustanon with a little added deca to my last course.
Interested in advice form anyone else running growth for its fat loss potential as to the best steroids to stack with it over a 6 month course.
thanks.

 

[overrx]

you can't use this cycle for 6 months (but im pretty sure you meant you were gonna do a cycle sometime over the course of 6 months) that being said
A great cycle in conjunction with GH would be
Test
Tren
Winny
(Insulin) -- if your experienced

tren is (debateable) more effective with GH since it helps promote the release of extra igf. Either way you can make great gains and hardly any body fat. If your using a 10 week cycle I recommend being on growth a month or two before using the cycle, and extending the gh to cover your pct...it really helps.

 

[HGH Man]

I think I would just use some test enanthate and maybe a low dose of Eq along with 4ius of Growth ,you should do well. You will get lean and put on some muscle and try to keep the same weight you are now. Don't expect much and you will be surprised.

 

[blue_pill]

thanks.

thanks guys
I had consdered using 8 weeks courses of test enanthate and tren with post cycle therapy (pct) in between.
On the other hand since this may well be my only GH course- its quite hard to come by in the UK- I wanted to get the best out of it. So was prepared for six months to consider staying on Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) too. Perhaps doing a receptor mapping or rotating course using different Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) for 4 weeks at a time.

If that's a really bad idea will respect your advice-

In terms of insulin: I have a blood glucose meter and I am going to be doing Glucose tolerance testing during my GH course. If I start to become intolerant I was not planning to use insulin but try to use one of the shorter acting Sulphonylureas oral hypoglycaemic drugs like gliclazide or tolbutamide to augment my natural insulin release. Failing that I could try Metformin to increase peripheral glucose uptake. These drugs do have risks of hypoglycaemia with use but considerably less than insulin.

Have any of you tried these?

thanks for the feedback.

 

[overrx]

Ahh long cycles are killer. I still think just doing one cycle is better but if you'd rather do a longer cycle I would say try something like:
GH >= 4iu's/day Months 1-6
Test 750 mg/wk Months 1-5
Tren 75 mg/day Months 4,5
Winny 100 mg/day Months 4,5
HCG - 500 iu's/wk Months 1-5
PCT (clomid) and dont forget Anti-E's
--- IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO USE ANTI E WHEN TAKING GH AND ANYTHING THAT AROMATIZES, IT MAKES GETTING GYNO A HELL OF A LOT EASIER -- sorry i felt that needed to be in caps lol.
My reasoning behind the cycle is this:
1) Tren I feel should be thrown in at the end because a) its side effects are unpredictable so if something goes wrong, you can always jump ship and still have gotten a good test cycle in. Also like I said, tren works in conjunction with hgh by releasing igf, this would be most beneficial somewhere in the middle of your cycle, not at the beginning when the hgh is first taking effect.
2) The Winstrol (winny) and test boils down to type 1 and type 2, always a good mix and Winstrol (winny) has some effects on tendons (some pos some neg) either way GH helps eliminate the neg ones, and Winstrol (winny) may help to bind to any receptors that could cause gyno from gh/tren.
3) I recommend taking HCG just to keep your nuts working, coming off is a pisser and you will be atrophied a hell of a lot more
4) It is important to continue HGH at least 1 month after your cycle, if you could it should be two. Reason for this is you will lose your gains when you come off, your body will be in a state of catabolism no matter what. HGH will help prevent the loss of your hard earned gains. It creates an anabolic environment and helps with fat loss once your metabolism drops.

As for insulin, I only recommended it because it helps you get some crazy gains and is good in conjunction with GH. I use it to aid post workout recovery and sometimes to compensate my glycogen stores the morning of a day I'm planning a serious workout. I don't understand what the big deal is about HGH causing insulin problems, but also I dont monitor my blood sugar levels so far all i know i could be diabetic, still i think its overrated and i also heard metaformin will solve the problem if you have one.

Thats pretty much about it.

 

[blue_pill]

thanks

thanks overrx,
will take that on board.

 

[papasung]

don't forget clenbuterol and t-3 they are also needed when using the hgh.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

don't forget clenbuterol and t-3 they are also needed when using the hgh.

Neither is necessary...........

 

[blue_pill]

Thanks SCNTO.
I think the plan is going to be:
GH 4IU ED 6 months
initial Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) course: Test Enanthate 500/week for 8 weeks with Proviron 500mg ED
then 6 weeks off with post cycle therapy (pct) (Clomid and HCG) then
8 weeks:
Enanthate 500mg/week, Trenbolone 75mg EOD, Proviron 500mg/day and last 4 weeks Winstrol 100mg/day
leaves me 1 month just growth to finish (with post cycle therapy (pct))
critique please!

 

[overrx]

as long as you meant proviron 50 mg/day and not 500 your good to go. My only recommendation is to throw in Winstrol (winny) with the tren instead of the proviron and use arimidex for an anti-e throughtout both cycles and always have nolva on hand just in case.

 

[blue_pill]

thanks-

Thanks Guys your advice is much appreciated.
will keep you posted as to progress when I start .
the proviron dose was indeed a typo- meant 50mg/day.

 

[overrx]

glad you decided to go with 2 shoter cycles, im coming off one really long one and its just the worst feeling ever.

 

[indy69camaro]

I'm 5'8" tall, 196lbs, 14%BF.
really interested in using GH, have now got supplies to use 4IU daily for 6 months to cut my BF.
Have used Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) before- 2 courses: testosterone enanthate and sustanon with a little added deca to my last course.
Interested in advice form anyone else running growth for its fat loss potential as to the best steroids to stack with it over a 6 month course.
thanks.

I have the same stat's as you, EXACTLY. I spoke with a doctor last week in the USA that specializes in hGh and such. He advised that I use a 6 month cycle as well, 2iu a day up to 4iu for gains. He also stated (and I was glad to hear) that 6 months is too long of a cycle with gear added with the gh.