strength from equipoise

[Meandog]

I have been on 500mg of eq for 5 weeks now(I train mma hence running eq solo)I have recently felt the affects of the eq on my levels of stamina,But i am yet to feel much more than a slightly more intence pump in the weight room,Now i know the gains in strength are not going to be staggering but when should i start to see my strength increse

 

[RRAdam]

eq's strength gains arent very substaintial or direct, as it is not very androgenic.

 

[JackednRipped]

I have been on 500mg of eq for 5 weeks now(I train mma hence running eq solo)I have recently felt the affects of the eq on my levels of stamina,But i am yet to feel much more than a slightly more intence pump in the weight room,Now i know the gains in strength are not going to be staggering but when should i start to see my strength increse

There's minimal strength gains with eq. The only time I ever use it anymore is during cutters since it doesn't do much more then increase hardness and vascularity. I suppose you can experience a light appetite increase so that is one benefit if it were to be included in a bulker.

 

[CJ01]

I am running it in a bulker. If you read the drug profiles on this site it described EQ and deca to be very similar. Deca is stronger but not as harsh as EQ. Less water weight with EQ, and I read it takes up to 6 weeks to notice.

 

[JackednRipped]

I am running it in a bulker. If you read the drug profiles on this site it described EQ and deca to be very similar. Deca is stronger but not as harsh as EQ. Less water weight with EQ, and I read it takes up to 6 weeks to notice.

If you've tried both then you'd agree that statement isnt the most accurate as there isnt much similarity between them at all.
Deca causes a considerable amount of water retention, much higher strength increases, definitly much higher mass increases. You also have the risk of progesterone induced gyno in addition to it shutting you down much harder.
Whereas eq as I mentioned doesnt do much more then harden you up and increase vascularity with possibly a minor effect on strength and weight increase. The only real similarity they have is an increased nitrogen balance and rbc count, but they have that in common with pretty much any other gear as well to varying degrees.

 

[CJ01]

well, then your saying EQ is a less harsher form of deca pretty much. The reason I didnt use Deca is because it seems pretty harsh from everything I have read. I dunno know, but I will in about 6 weeks.

 

[diezell]

id say give it 8 weeks thats when i start to feel it, i hate eq though, didnt do a whole lot for me.

 

[JackednRipped]

well, then your saying EQ is a less harsher form of deca pretty much. The reason I didnt use Deca is because it seems pretty harsh from everything I have read. I dunno know, but I will in about 6 weeks.

Well personally i'm pretty much saying I wouldnt bother using eq in a bulker since the effects wouldnt really be optimized in that situation.
Deca isnt as harsh as you might think. It's actually pretty mild if used at a moderate dosage. Gyno isnt much of a concern at lower doses and can be prevented easily with the proper ancillaries and recovery can be handled fine with a proper post cycle therapy (pct). Dont let potential sides scare you away from it.

 

[CJ01]

Ok well then I might try it next. Now I'm wondering if I should just pass on the EQ I have and switch to Deca or can I run more EQ? I thought I made a good decision on EQ but now I am starting to think otherwise. Should I bump up the EQ to 600mg a week instead of 400?

 

[RRAdam]

600 is a pretty large amount. It does a lot to blood viscosity, so be careful

 

[CJ01]

I think I am gonna stick with 400mg of test e and 400mg of EQ per week. I am 205 and my goal is 225. I think the test will do that and if the EQ adds extra weight great, if it just gives me more vascularity great to cause I not going for the "cant reach my back to scratch look".

 

[JackednRipped]

I think I am gonna stick with 400mg of test e and 400mg of EQ per week. I am 205 and my goal is 225. I think the test will do that and if the EQ adds extra weight great, if it just gives me more vascularity great to cause I not going for the "cant reach my back to scratch look".

It's your first run with it anyways. Sticking with it at that dose to feel it out for yourself is your best option. If you run again I would definitly increase the dose though.

 

[CJ01]

I think I am gonna bump up the test though. Think it would be ok to bump the test up to 750 or 600mg/week? Would that be to much with 400mg of EQ? Need help as i just started this cycle and my second inject is today...

 

[JackednRipped]

I think I am gonna bump up the test though. Think it would be ok to bump the test up to 750 or 600mg/week? Would that be to much with 400mg of EQ? Need help as i just started this cycle and my second inject is today...

No it wouldnt be too much. I wouldnt go to 750, stick with 600mg imo. There's no need to bump up the dosage too quickly in your cycles.

 

[jarbulldog]

keep the doses as low as you can and still make gains

 

[JackednRipped]

keep the doses as low as you can and still make gains

Exactly. There's too many people that do one cycle at an average dose and then think they're ready to run 2 grams on their second.
Cycle smart and you'll keep growing while minimizing sides.

 

[CJ01]

ok, thanks guys. I will keep the same doage for the EQ until I feel it out. I did up my test from 400mg/week to 600mg/week. I ran 500mg of test e for my first cycle and even though I added another compound for my second I wanted to do a little more test then my first so my cycle now looks like this. Tell me what you think, keeping in mind I didnt experience any sides from the first cycle.

600mg/week of Test E
400mg/week of EQ

both split into 2 injects per week