Test and prop cut/strength log

[Bulldog2103]

Interesting regarding the night sweat, does that happen on occassion? I never sweat in my sleep so that would be a clear sign for me of tren. And are you still on Anavar (var) or are you going to throw that back in the last few weeks?

 

[superp]

Well, Im trying to cut, so that defeats the purpose Otherwise I'd do just that

I was thinking, You can refeed for a couple days and then work your way back down again; is a common technique when people get stuck on a cut. Just a thought.

 

[MN87]

^ Yeah I've been thinking of doing something like that. Possibly upping the protein intake too.

Interesting regarding the night sweat, does that happen on occassion? I never sweat in my sleep so that would be a clear sign for me of tren. And are you still on Anavar (var) or are you going to throw that back in the last few weeks?

Nah not uncommon for me. And yeah I've decided to stay on Anavar (var) ... why the hell not. I have enough that I can continue running it for the duration of my tren cycle as well as extend past it as a backload to the end of my cycle. If I run tren for 6 weeks, that would mean my last tren pin would be Sep 10 (a month from now ), and I wouldn't run out of Anavar (var) till the 16th. So yeah.

 

[MN87]

Today's workout technically went well, but I was very unmotivated for various reasons.

Squatted 525x4, did some heavy pulldowns, and peaced after that. Oh well, more energy for my next workout right

 

[Bulldog2103]

Dude, this blows! When is the master steroid going to make its presence known? I'm perplexed by this, but i'll keep waking up hoping for the best.

 

[MN87]

Ok, my peptide writeup. I would really like to wait until the tren kick in before I start using them, so I can gauge their effects more accurately, but I may just start dosing them asap... as soon as I can get my lazy ass to reconstitute them. I currently have Mod GRF(1-29) and Ipamorellin, but I will switch to GHRP2 when I run out. GHRP6 and Hexarellin don't appeal to me. I'm hoping for a nice synergy between the peps and the AAS... they should aid in fat loss at these doses too. My protocol is based off of datbtrue's research, which I hold in very high regards.

Doses: 100mcg Ipam (or GHRP2) + 100mcg Mod GRF (1-29)

On cycle, I will use em 3x daily... upon waking up, post workout, and pre-bed.

During PCT, I will use em 5x/day for 3 weeks to elevate IGF levels (at least 3-3.5 hours hours apart).

Eating: So apparently meal timing is very important when administering these peps. The GH pulse begins at 5 minutes and peaks at 30-35 minutes. Since protein has no effect on GH release, I will eat it ASAP. Since fats strongly effect GH release, I will eat them only at the 30 minute mark. Carbs I will eat 20 minutes in.

 

[MN87]

Dude, this blows! When is the master steroid going to make its presence known? I'm perplexed by this, but i'll keep waking up hoping for the best.

Lotta logs online seem to indicate up to 2 weeks in is when it starts to kick.

 

[MN87]

Hm...

OHP = 225x7
DB inc = 135x10, 140x7
CG inc = 295x8.5
Flat = 335x12, 225x36

WELL! My flat w/ 335 went up 3 reps since my last workout Thursday. 3 reps on a lift that's otherwise plateaued?? Never happens to me EVER... basically I'm trying to say that I think the tren may be starting to kick! Ima go all out on my squats tomorrow and see how it fares me

In light of my progress today, I am going to shoot for the stars and aim for reps w/245 on overheads, reps w/315 on incline, and reps w/365 and 225x40 on flat by cycles end My lockout/tris need work though.. gonna cut out a few sets on incline and add some tri work... my chest is big and unproportional anyway

Few other things. First, I'm not sure what I have is PIP so much as it is just pain in general. Must be from the 20g shot last week. Also gonna start dosing my peps tonight. Also, I'm also very bloated, I had ALOT of sodium last week due to it being a stressful week. I've decided to stop dosing my GWP aromasin. Not sure of the quality of it, but I'm fucking sick of all this guesswork with research chems regardless. Will start dosing my UGL Aromatase inhibitor (AI) instead, and after that, just use pharma stuff from here on out. I just didn't know any better when I first started my cycle.

 

[Bulldog2103]

Dude! You're fucking beasting, those inclines are incredible! 36 reps at 225, they will try and add weight to your frame and make you a linebacker, or a beastly strong safety. Don't let them make you a lineman though, that would be some bull shit though it sounds like you'll be one of the strongest dudes on the team.

Looking forward to hearing those squat numbers, just don't injure yourself like this old man over here.

 

[MN87]

Squatted 535 for 2 or 3, I forget lol. One physical change I have noticed on cycle is that my hip muscles (gluteus medius) have gotten ALOT more muscular. Still have a month of tren left (last tren pin on 9/10) so I'm excited to see what I can do between now and then.

Among other stuff, did some decline abs with a plate behind my head... forgot how awesome this exercise was! Glad I started doing it again.

Started dosing peps last night and will continue to do so, switching off GWP Aromasin today to my UGL Aromasin, yadda yadda. I wanted to experiment with an EOD routine on this cycle but I dunno if I will get around to that. We will see I guess.

 

[Bulldog2103]

That's what I wanted to ask you, what kind of muscle growth have you noticed on cycle? My glutes have definitely grown along with seemingly every other muscle group. Unfortunately my calves get veinier and have more cuts but they refuse to add legitimate size. I suppose you can't alter genetics but at least they perform at a top level even though they won't grow how i'd like.

 

[MN87]

Tough to accurately gauge that... I'm more full all over but I attribute that to bloat inflation. *My hips are without a doubt much larger/harder/more muscular, but other than that I can't be certain what is truly hypertrophy and what isn't. My abs and tris are noticeably more defined than precycle, but that could be hypertrophy and/or fat loss related. Definitely have crazy vascularity/striations in my back that I didn't have before, but we'll see if they stay when I'm off

 

[MN87]

Oh yeah. Was gonna pin my ass today, but I pulled out the 23g/1.5", took off the protective cap to see the needle... and was like just "fuck that" and used it as a draw needle instead. The needle was somewhat bent/slanted to, so that didn't help my nerves either

I JUST CANT DO IT!

I've been taking lotta hot water baths recently though and it has been doing a lot to reduce PIP and inflammation, which is nice... also takes care of some of the bloat when it gets really outta hand. But if I could only get over my fear of pinning glutes I'm sure it would really allow me to vary my exercise selection, sprints are all but impossible nowadays except when I pin my shoulders.

 

[Bulldog2103]

Well at least you are getting closer. You should definitely force yourself to do it this cycle so that it will be a part of your weekly injects next time around. When there is something that you don't want to do because of fear, you have to sack up and force yourself to do it just to conquer it and let it know who runs this shit.

Millions of people do it, you're tough so you'll be fine and will have far less PIP to show for it. The only pain I get from injecting is the initial poke so whether it's 1.5'' or a half inch it simply doesn't matter from that standpoint. I'm expecting you to report back in a couple of days having done it so get to it bud.

 

[MN87]

Another decent day:

OHP 235x3
DB inc 140x8
CG inc 295x9
Flat 345x10, 355x5

Getting very close to my goals! If I can rep 245 on OHs, 315 on inc, and 365 on flat by cycles end I will consider it a successful cycle. I anticipate hitting these numbers sooner rather than later. The question then becomes, do I stick the cycle out for the remainder as planned, or do I cut it short and start my recovery to prep for my next cycle? Hm, decisions decisions.

Currently on week 9 of my cycle, and today marked the beginning of my 3rd week on tren. Think I'm noticing quad muscularity that I didn't have prior to the cycle.

I'm weighing somewhere over 200. When I initially start cycling I bloated up to 200 some pounds very quick, and then leveled out around the mid 190s. But back then 200 was enormous for me. Roid gut galore, and I was so 'full' that I could barely walk or breathe. I feel a lot more comfortable at 200 this time around, and roid gut isn't as prominent as it was, which leads me to think I've put on more lean tissue than I originally thought.

I feel like my face has lost many of its rigid defining features, but seems like nobody else cares or has even noticed. I guess we're our own biggest critic... I think they're all full of shit though

 

[Bulldog2103]

I would not consider cutting this cycle short unless your lifts plateaued. The fact that they are going up every week means you've hit a sweet spot and I recommend riding that wave out through the duration. Don't trip on the sides, they are temporary and remember that this cycle at its end will improve the previous you only for the better.

I've got the same sides but I just embrace them because it doesn't derail my ability to land girls or do what I normally do. We're just under construction at the moment dealing with some machine maintenances but believe me the machine will be one of a kind afterwards my friend. Stay strong brother and don't stop pinning just yet.

 

[MN87]

I would not consider cutting this cycle short unless your lifts plateaued.

Agreed. Thats the main point at which I think I would strongly consider cutting the cycle short. Especially if it happens later rather than sooner, I think termination would be a better option than increasing doses.

 

[MN87]

Squat - 535 x 3. Closing in on my goal of 545

I want to do some research on Test Suspension (TNE I think its abbreviated, right?). I'm considering the idea of switching from prop to TNE after I finish tren, to streamline the whole PCT process just a bit. Plus it would give me some experience with a compound which I definitely plan to incorporate in the future. I'm also interested in the idea of kickstarting my next cycle with some Test Suspension... the immediate jump appeals to me and sound like it works faster than any oral out there... hell even with the short estered prop and the Anavar (var) I ran this time around I didn't start gaining strength till day 11.

Also will probably increase Aro dosage to 25mg and start prami at .5 any day now.

 

[Bulldog2103]

Look for test base, it's test suspension but it is suspended differently. It should make PIP more tolerable and have the same quick effects. My friend says he can feel suspension literally hours after injection so he uses it pre-workout and still uses prop as a base.

I'd be very interested in test base, but I don't know who carries it. My friend hates the PIP from suspension, he says it crystallizes and jams up. Perhaps if you heat it before drawing it would go smoother. If you find a source for it let me know.

 

[MN87]

Wow dude thanks, I didn't even know there was a difference between em, apparently base hits a lot faster. So what's TNE then?

Base sounds appealing cause it hits faster but yeah dude at this point its more a matter of source... test Suspension I've been able to find easier but even then its rarer than say prop or E/C... haven't come across base yet.