Test level 136.1ng/dl

[MightyMouse9999]

Just got my results back today. In my last week of post cycle therapy (pct) and ran rui's torem 90/90/60/30. Ran 12wks of Sustanon (sust) at 500/wk. My primary care doctor said that I may need injections but says im kindve young at 34 for it. I hope she gives me a script

 

[Zeek]

I would run the old school PCt with clomid as the base to see if you can fix this problem.

I read too many guys getting no results from using torem in post cycle therapy (pct). I know the copy and pasted studies say one thing but i only look at real world feedback from guys I am familiar with.

clomid 50mg ed x 4 weeks and then retest a few weeks after that.

Good luck brother

 

[cashout]

Just got my results back today. In my last week of post cycle therapy (pct) and ran rui's torem 90/90/60/30. Ran 12wks of Sustanon (sust) at 500/wk. My primary care doctor said that I may need injections but says im kindve young at 34 for it. I hope she gives me a script

I know I am beating a dead horse here but this is the very reason I started the thread linked below. Read the reasons why these PCTs are failing...

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/618782-more-more-failed-pcts.html

There is an epidemic of failed PCTs around here.

Look at the spreadsheet that is linked for an outline of a complete PCT.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...FmdHhQUEVBY0lva1BhYXMyUS1mNHJiVkE&output=html

 

[DADAWG]

I would run the old school PCt with clomid as the base to see if you can fix this problem.

I read too many guys getting no results from using torem in post cycle therapy (pct). I know the copy and pasted studies say one thing but i only look at real world feedback from guys I am familiar with.

clomid 50mg ed x 4 weeks and then retest a few weeks after that.

Good luck brother

over and over . the new greatest thing doesnt beat out old faithfull / clomid.


if it aint broke then dont fix it.

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Sup MM.

Did you wait 21 days after your last injection of Sustanon (sust) to start post cycle therapy (pct)? Did you blast any HCG? I am just wondering and that info may benefit some people and let them see that more is needed for pct.... even if it a test only cycle.

Gotta say nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid @ 50mg a day for 28 days. Keep running your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) until post cycle therapy (pct) is over too. I hope this helps you for next cycle, but right now you need to focus on recovery, GL to you.

 

[MightyMouse9999]

Yea. I did everything right. Ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 500 wk and then blasted Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu for 10 days.

 

[lifter85]

well thats another bad post cycle therapy (pct) with torem... I don't think I'm going to use it again.

 

[cashout]

Yea. I did everything right. Ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 500 wk and then blasted Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500iu for 10 days.

You followed the "conventional wisdom."

Again, that makes my point and that is why I wrote the other thread.

The "conventional wisdom" is failing guys on here time after time...

 

[Four1Thr33]

cashout im going to try your way next... my post cycle therapy (pct) failed as well... go figure.. test of 207 right now... but i started my clomiod again untill my next cycle

 

[cashout]

For the record and so everyone understands, I'm not making a claim that this is "my PCT" or something I created. I take no credit for this at all.

The method I suggest was first developed in the late 1980s (yes it is that old) by the combined efforts of Dr. Fred Hatfield and Dan Duchanie. Later on, the principles were tested and described by Dr. Micheal Scally in the medical literature circa 2000.

I've used these principles successfully since 1988. Over the years, I have tweeked some things, like the use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout, for myself.

That said, I keep putting this out to the membership here because I know how hard guys here work for their gains and how destructive it is to loose those gains because of a failed PCT.

 

[TraPump]

For the record and so everyone understands, I'm not making a claim that this is "my PCT" or something I created. I take no credit for this at all.

The method I suggest was first developed in the late 1980s (yes it is that old) by the combined efforts of Dr. Fred Hatfield and Dan Duchanie. Later on, the principles were tested and described by Dr. Micheal Scally in the medical literature circa 2000.

I've used these principles successfully since 1988. Over the years, I have tweeked some things, like the use of an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout, for myself.

That said, I keep putting this out to the membership here because I know how hard guys here work for their gains and how destructive it is to loose those gains because of a failed PCT.

99% sure this is how i'll post cycle therapy (pct) when i run my first cycle

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

cashout im going to try your way next... my post cycle therapy (pct) failed as well... go figure.. test of 207 right now... but i started my clomiod again untill my next cycle

So just out of the blue after your low test results you're going to run clomid to see if it brings your test level up?

I am not bashing you in anyway I am asking you and whoever else wants to chime in will this work? Is this possible to help? Because I have ran 2 cycles and after both I did clomid at 50/50/50/50 and my test is very low also.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

damn man im really sorry to hear that. Sustanon (sust) is a bitch to com off of, cause it has that long ass deca ester in it.

sorry to hear that, im with Zeek as well though, ive seen quite a few guys feel great on toremifine, only to test under 400

 

[lifter85]

damn man im really sorry to hear that. Sustanon (sust) is a bitch to com off of, cause it has that long ass deca ester in it.

sorry to hear that, im with Zeek as well though, ive seen quite a few guys feel great on toremifine, only to test under 400

That was me the last two cycles, felt great and held the majority of weight and strength, but test came back at 430. I've always thought I'd be a 600-700 test considering the size and strength I'm able to maintain. So I'm guessing torem hasn't been doing much, and I've only been slightly recovering. Nolvadex and clomid for me next time and I'll get the blood results to compare.

 

[Four1Thr33]

Ya I
Figure when taking clomid even this late should do the exact same thing as on post cycle therapy (pct) and that's restart your natty test and get it back to normal. And I have read that both clomid and nolva boost your test levels if there low. I figured to give it a try after talking to zeek

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Ya I
Figure when taking clomid even this late should do the exact same thing as on post cycle therapy (pct) and that's restart your natty test and get it back to normal. And I have read that both clomid and nolva boost your test levels if there low. I figured to give it a try after talking to zeek

Ok I'll have to look into this then