Test prop 100mg, 150mg, or 200mg WK

[animal00043]

Disclaimer: Sorry guys, title is screwed, i was up late writing this, and looking at way too many posts in regards to burst cyclying and got my mg's messed. SORRY

Hey guys, well im thinking about doing a short 6 week cycle burst, i have been doing long cycles but i figure i might give the short burst cycles a shot as i have been doing some reading lately and it seems more logical and more fun.

Well i was initially going to run a 1000mg/wk cycle of test prop for 16 weeks with 50mg tren ace ED for 8-10 weeks as well.

Now that im thinking about it i might want to do the short cycle.

So something like 6 weeks at:
week 1-2: 100mg/ed
week 3-4: 1500mg/ed
week 5-6: 200mg/ed

week 7-11: Standard nolvadex and clomid dosing and length

Week 13 repeat 6 week cycle.

What do you guys think?

Im just throwing out ideas, i respond real well with high levels of gear, i dont tend to get bad sides, even on 225mg ED Tren Ace for 6 weeks, didnt too bad of sides, and it was very legit stuff.

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

you kidding, right?

 

[KingCrane]

He must be, no one who really did research would come up with this.

 

[R1rider]

Hey guys, well im thinking about doing a short 6 week cycle burst, i have been doing long cycles but i figure i might give the short burst cycles a shot as i have been doing some reading lately and it seems more logical and more fun.

Well i was initially going to run a 1000mg/wk cycle of test prop for 16 weeks with 50mg tren ace ED for 8-10 weeks as well.

Now that im thinking about it i might want to do the short cycle.

So something like 6 weeks at:
week 1-2: 1000mg/wk
week 3-4: 15000mg/wk
week 5-6: 2000mg/wk

week 7-11: Standard nolvadex and clomid dosing and length

Week 13 repeat 6 week cycle.

What do you guys think?

Im just throwing out ideas, i respond real well with high levels of gear, i dont tend to get bad sides, even on 225mg ED Tren Ace for 6 weeks, didnt too bad of sides, and it was very legit stuff.

wtf

 

[animal00043]

woop.


Correction:

100mg/ED
150mg/ED
200mg/ED

Not 2-1G Week.

Was reading and writing on to many forums at same time, sorry dudes.




Anyone run a burst cycle like this with prop?

 

[blazeftp]

LOL thats more normal.

 

[Teutonic]

Tapering is senseless in my opinion..pick a dose and run it.
The hormonal fluctuation s will only further the complexicty of your potential sides not to mention the potential emotional mental mind fuck it could put you in.

 

[drewbolic]

what are your stats?
cycle history?

 

[animal00043]

haha ya sorry, im big, but not that for those doses.

But the reason i am tapering is so that i can maximize my gains without having any receptor saturation at a certain dose. Im probably off my rocker, but i just think it seems a little more sensible in the fact that i would just be adding more and more in, in order to keep getting the best gains possible.

 

[drewbolic]

how about giving the board some back ground so they can help give some quality advise

 

[animal00043]

what are your stats?
cycle history?

I am 221lbs, 5'10, 26. 11-13%BF, i dont like the cut look, like being bulky.

I started at 23.5 juicing after lifting for three or four years, two years with diet.

I wont go into my diet or workouts as i know mine works best for me, as the gains havent stopped yet.

I have ran about 4-5 cycles. I Respond better to higher dosages, i dont get sides from barely anything. I got some gyno from some test susp that i made, but it was treated with nolva and all is well now.

-first cycle was 12 weeks test E 500mg
-second cycle was 12 weeks test E 500mg with 600mg EQ
-Third Cycle was tren ace at 75mg Ed, 150mg ED, 225mg ed for 8 weeks. stacked with test enth at 750mg then up to 1000mg EW for 12 weeks.
-Fourth cycle was Test cyp at 900mg with 400mg decca and 50mg then 75mg dbol ED for 14 weeks
-Fifth cycle was test prop at 500mg EW up to 700mg EW for 12 weeks.

Fourth and fifth cycle were both followed up with IGF-1 lr3 during my post cycle, using clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in every post as well.

Posted for min 6 weeks, usually longer, but if a shorted post, the next cycle was shorted as well.

Got my levels checked by my endo last week right after the new year, everything is looking normal, i have not been on cycle for about 2.5 months now, im thinking my body is about ready for another in the next two to three weeks.

 

[RJ]

haha ya sorry, im big, but not that for those doses.

But the reason i am tapering is so that i can maximize my gains without having any receptor saturation at a certain dose. Im probably off my rocker, but i just think it seems a little more sensible in the fact that i would just be adding more and more in, in order to keep getting the best gains possible.

sorry animal, but more gear doesn't = more gains. You're relying on the gear to build your physique.

If your not gaining with normal doses, your diet and training are off. Plain and simple.

I know guys 50lbs heavier than you that don't use that much gear.

 

[drewbolic]

sorry animal, but more gear doesn't = more gains. You're relying on the gear to build your physique.

If your not gaining with normal doses, your diet and training are off. Plain and simple.

I know guys 50lbs heavier than you that don't use that much gear.

Great post RJ.

OP whats your diet and training like maybe you can tweak it to stimulate some growth with the use of high doses

 

[animal00043]

The science behind using more testosterone for more gains is true. Maybe not to a certain extent, like using 5 grams a week or something. But the higher you go, or if you are running a dose and you stop gaining and you bump it up, you will continue to gain.

Im not relying on just AAS to make my gains, only trying to make them come faster, as what is the reason for using aas but for helping in gains. My diet and routine are on spot. I know you give good advice, but the more test you use, the better the gains.

Sure that might not be true with tren or some other aas, but with test it is. More testosterone in the body promotes high protein synthesis, more nitrogen retention, and more muscle building.

Also everyone is different, and i am running prop this time at a higher dosage than i have in the past, as of starting off a cycle. So im really not using that much gear. 1 gram of test a week, up to 1400 mg a week at its highest, its quite a bit of test, but no where near out of question for a short blast cycle.

 

[RJ]

The science behind using more testosterone for more gains is true. Maybe not to a certain extent, like using 5 grams a week or something. But the higher you go, or if you are running a dose and you stop gaining and you bump it up, you will continue to gain.

Im not relying on just AAS to make my gains, only trying to make them come faster, as what is the reason for using aas but for helping in gains. My diet and routine are on spot. I know you give good advice, but the more test you use, the better the gains.

Sure that might not be true with tren or some other aas, but with test it is. More testosterone in the body promotes high protein synthesis, more nitrogen retention, and more muscle building.

Also everyone is different, and i am running prop this time at a higher dosage than i have in the past, as of starting off a cycle. So im really not using that much gear. 1 gram of test a week, up to 1400 mg a week at its highest, its quite a bit of test, but no where near out of question for a short blast cycle.

if you stop making gains, its because your diet and/or training is fucked up.

If you use more gear to make those gains instead of fixing the real problem (diet/training), then you are RELYING on the gear. You said it yourself.

 

[animal00043]

sorry animal, but more gear doesn't = more gains. You're relying on the gear to build your physique.

If your not gaining with normal doses, your diet and training are off. Plain and simple.

I know guys 50lbs heavier than you that don't use that much gear.

So your saying that there are 270lb men who use less than 500-750mg Test enth or 500-700mg test prop per week. And they are still gaining wieght, i find that to be a very odd. Sure it might work, but they are keeping their system shut down for long period of time, they arent putting on tons of weight with that dosage at that weight. They might be putting on weight, but its not a lot and it must take a long time to put it on.

Also there is a point to where you cant stay at lower dosages and keep gaining. There have been many threads on it, i would be more than glad to post them so that you can read them. Also there is a sticky on this forum that states that 600mg of test is better than 300mg test. Now im not going to be running 2g test a week, but 1400mg a week tops for only 2 weeks, isnt out of the question.

IF you believe that you can gain still on small amount of test once you have gained the weight from previous cycles, and you think you can keep gaining at that same weight, all you have to do is eat more or lift more or different, thats wrong. Your body needs a certain amount of test to keep the muscles at the size you have, you need that specific amount on top of what you already need to grow bigger.

Now sure you might be growing some, but not nearly as much as you could be if you upped the dosages, thats a fact.

I would be more than happy to find studies that say that more test is more gains. period.

 

[Polynikes666]

A,

I believe the general sentiments are as such: Use gear as a tool, not a crutch. Use as little as possible to meet your goals. Make your general health a priority.

Good luck,

Poly

 

[glubgawd]

So your saying that there are 270lb men who use less than 500-750mg Test enth or 500-700mg test prop per week. And they are still gaining wieght, i find that to be a very odd.

Yup. I'm one of them. You're using way more gear than I do and I'm 6'7ish 349lbs. Most of my fellow linemen don't use that much either. When I run test I tend to keep it at 500mg EW and I don't get ridiculous on dosing my other gear either.

Also you might wanna get your source checked. 225mg ED of tren ace sounds like a bad idea.

 

[RJ]

So your saying that there are 270lb men who use less than 500-750mg Test enth or 500-700mg test prop per week. And they are still gaining wieght, i find that to be a very odd. Sure it might work, but they are keeping their system shut down for long period of time, they arent putting on tons of weight with that dosage at that weight. They might be putting on weight, but its not a lot and it must take a long time to put it on.

Also there is a point to where you cant stay at lower dosages and keep gaining. There have been many threads on it, i would be more than glad to post them so that you can read them. Also there is a sticky on this forum that states that 600mg of test is better than 300mg test. Now im not going to be running 2g test a week, but 1400mg a week tops for only 2 weeks, isnt out of the question.

IF you believe that you can gain still on small amount of test once you have gained the weight from previous cycles, and you think you can keep gaining at that same weight, all you have to do is eat more or lift more or different, thats wrong. Your body needs a certain amount of test to keep the muscles at the size you have, you need that specific amount on top of what you already need to grow bigger.

Now sure you might be growing some, but not nearly as much as you could be if you upped the dosages, thats a fact.

I would be more than happy to find studies that say that more test is more gains. period.

i don't care what a thread says. Again, i know many guys like Glub that use lower doses than you and do just fine.

You keep saying "a ton of weight". You do realize that no one gains 25lbs of muscle every cycle. A few of us a few years ago had this convo with Gator McClusky. Based on all his supposed gains 'on cycle', he would of been like 750lbs of muscle after 5 years of cycling or whatever.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong here brother. You don't need more gear to make more gains. And keeping gains has nothing to do with the amount of test in your body. I've put on over 50lbs of muscle in the last 10 years. And i walk around at a comfortable 235lbs @ 12%. And guess what? I'm on 100mg of HRT test a week.

And just like guys like Cutler and Coleman, there not gaining 20-30lbs of muscle per year. They got to a certain size and now its just micro-gaining. It doesn't work the way you think it does.

you need to focus more on multi compound synergy and stop thinking all that gear is gonna make you bigger. Well, it may make you bigger, but those gains will be based on gear primarily and not what they should be. Food and training.

 

[Dragula]

Yup. I'm one of them. You're using way more gear than I do and I'm 6'7ish 349lbs. Most of my fellow linemen don't use that much either. When I run test I tend to keep it at 500mg EW and I don't get ridiculous on dosing my other gear either.

Also you might wanna get your source checked. 225mg ED of tren ace sounds like a bad idea.

6'7 349 HOLY CRAP I'm assuming that your bf is prob a lil higher due to being a lineman huh. Anyway I wouldnt wanna be on the other end of an argument wit ya and I consider myself a big guy at 6'4 260