Well said car, I am tired of all the bitch'n as well, nomatter how anybody looks leaned out or massed out, there is always going to be the ones that are insecure about there own physique
As far as loosing mass, I lost fat, from a dirty bulk, big dif from lbm to fat loss
Lean bulk as stated after the contest ends
As inhave been told by others and I totally agree myself when I look at somebody vascular and lean, they look bigger at 200lbs at 8% bf then 240 at 18 to 20% bf, just the way the illusion effect works