Mad- scientist
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So basically I am looking for something to put on some extra muscle but I have had issues with toxicity from orals in the past and them giving me pains around my liver area.
So I am trying to figure out is T-bol really that less toxic than D-bol is. I know D-bol will give me better gains than t-bol will but percentage wise how much more toxic is d-bol just as a estimation or educated guess.
Also how much actual muscle would each yield. I know every one is different but for some one who has never used either one and has diet and training on track. What would be a rough estimation of muscle gained from each compound. My guess was that T-bol would be muscle gains of maybe 3-5 pounds and D-bol would give muscle gains of around 5-10 pounds. Im going to stack either compound with Npp and im already running test E at 850mgs a week. The testosterone is kicking in and Im filling out nicely I am just realizing that the amount of gains im looking for is not realistic at this point in my AAS use from one compound only. Lol I want like 20 pounds so I need a lot of AAS. T-bol sounds interesting to me and sounds like a good compound I just would like to get a educated guess from some of the members I trust around here about what type of gains to expect. And if D-bol is really that much better of a alternative. Also would taking lower dosages of D-bol like 30mgs make it less toxic and still give better muscle gains than T-bol. Any ideas are much appreciated or information about what you guys know about it. I like getting peoples advice that I trust about this type of stuff. I have done research its just way to many people are talking out there ass on a lot of forums and the information differs to greatly for me to get a good idea on some of this information. I know the type of gains im looking for sound unrealistic or crazy but combining Test NPP and t-bol or D-bol I should be able to get damn close to it or reach the goal.
So I am trying to figure out is T-bol really that less toxic than D-bol is. I know D-bol will give me better gains than t-bol will but percentage wise how much more toxic is d-bol just as a estimation or educated guess.
Also how much actual muscle would each yield. I know every one is different but for some one who has never used either one and has diet and training on track. What would be a rough estimation of muscle gained from each compound. My guess was that T-bol would be muscle gains of maybe 3-5 pounds and D-bol would give muscle gains of around 5-10 pounds. Im going to stack either compound with Npp and im already running test E at 850mgs a week. The testosterone is kicking in and Im filling out nicely I am just realizing that the amount of gains im looking for is not realistic at this point in my AAS use from one compound only. Lol I want like 20 pounds so I need a lot of AAS. T-bol sounds interesting to me and sounds like a good compound I just would like to get a educated guess from some of the members I trust around here about what type of gains to expect. And if D-bol is really that much better of a alternative. Also would taking lower dosages of D-bol like 30mgs make it less toxic and still give better muscle gains than T-bol. Any ideas are much appreciated or information about what you guys know about it. I like getting peoples advice that I trust about this type of stuff. I have done research its just way to many people are talking out there ass on a lot of forums and the information differs to greatly for me to get a good idea on some of this information. I know the type of gains im looking for sound unrealistic or crazy but combining Test NPP and t-bol or D-bol I should be able to get damn close to it or reach the goal.
