tren and cardio training.. any advice for pushing cardio while on trenbolone?

[Charles Bronson]

excited about my next cycle

600 tren run with my trt dosage over 10 weeks with a dbol kick start..

question for those with experience,

the last time i ran tren my cardio would be terrible sometimes while other times it seemed to be ok..

about a 60/40 split with 40 percent of the time i just had no cardio at all, while 60 percent of the time it was just

greatly reduced from the level of stamina i am used to having while off cycle..

i box and do mma, so i am wondering if anyone had advice for cardio while on tren?

bronchial dilators like albuterol/ clenbuterol have a positive impact for training ?

any advice/ experience greatly appreciated, thanks guys.. Bronson

 

[Teutonic]

makes it a real bitch...sweaty and breathless is way of tren it would seem is the consensus..

 

[Charles Bronson]

damnit man..

I'm going to experiment with inhalers, maybe run low dosages of clen

hell yeah teutonic, you're 50?

jesus christ on rubber crutches, impressive man..

I'm pushing to get there, fading out the combat sports to resistance training

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I wonder if it is due to the increase in BP that Tren causes... I'm in Week 3 and I haven't noticed a major difference, ofcourse I am sitting at the same weight and have leaned out, so essentially just a recomp in terms of progress so it's not like a ridiculous amount of new muscle has been put on for the heart to work harder with.

I'd love to know why Tren affects cardio. I have read it may be due to an increase in phosposomething (I know it startsd with a P and no not phosphate).

 

[Rida5d]

I wonder if it is due to the increase in BP that Tren causes... I'm in Week 3 and I haven't noticed a major difference, ofcourse I am sitting at the same weight and have leaned out, so essentially just a recomp in terms of progress so it's not like a ridiculous amount of new muscle has been put on for the heart to work harder with.

I'd love to know why Tren affects cardio. I have read it may be due to an increase in phosposomething (I know it startsd with a P and no not phosphate).

Something is telling me that it's not related to blood pressure ..
I think it's the compound itself , u know when u get the tren cough when u hit a vein .. U lose ur damn lungs .. The fuckin cough..

Now if u don't hit a vein , the tren will do the same shit , but less aggressive.. If ur lungs are effected , ur cardio is effected.


Guys: it's just my opinion , and I have nothing to back it up. Just a theory I have.

 

[Teutonic]

your opinion matters and is respected...it s a wonder that cough but damn it can tear your sphincster...lol

 

[Harnold]

excited about my next cycle

600 tren run with my trt dosage over 10 weeks with a dbol kick start..

question for those with experience,

the last time i ran tren my cardio would be terrible sometimes while other times it seemed to be ok..

about a 60/40 split with 40 percent of the time i just had no cardio at all, while 60 percent of the time it was just

greatly reduced from the level of stamina i am used to having while off cycle..

i box and do mma, so i am wondering if anyone had advice for cardio while on tren?

bronchial dilators like albuterol/ clenbuterol have a positive impact for training ?

any advice/ experience greatly appreciated, thanks guys.. Bronson

Brother in my experience the D-Bol is gonna cause you problems with your cardio as well. the tren is gonna make it worse. have you run D-Bol before? don't get me wrong, I love the stuff, but, dare I say most, or at least a lot of users seem to suffer lower back, shin splint type aching or cramping in the lower legs, myself included. not to mention the water retention.
Not to piss on your parade my man, but the Bol and tren is gonna give you cardio and probably cramping problems, especially lower back and legs, some people have a hard time training legs even.
the very few times I've run tren, as I don't tolerate it well, my cardio was shot. the sleep loss is can cause won't help the cardio either.
having said all that, they should work great with the test base, enjoy the cycle.
Clen will definitely help, but it guess it would depend on your cycle goals and diet. clen and tren will most likely lean you out in my opinion. however it will help with cardio, no doubt.
my 2cnts.

 

[Chicago712]

Nice name OP, rep+... good movie

 

[Havasu]

In my opinion you're talking about a rather risky combo of adding albuterol, clen, etc. with Tren. Tren increases BP and resting HR. Now you're going to take something that will increase heart rate, and possibly blood pressure as well. Then you're going to try and push your cardiovascular system? That doesn't sound like a good combo. If you do, your top end will still not be what it usually is without taking any of those compounds. It will take much less to raise your heart rate, because it's raised to begin with. So, as soon as you start you're going to be up there. I would tread very lightly.

 

[Brian89]

Some gw50 might be a nice addition. Ive heard positive things about it being able to combat the decrease in stamina.

 

[STAUNCHED427]

I have never experienced Tren cough, but I have always used Tren Enanthate... Why is it that Tren Ace seems to produce this yet never Tren E is what I would also like to know.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

I have never experienced Tren cough, but I have always used Tren Enanthate... Why is it that Tren Ace seems to produce this yet never Tren E is what I would also like to know.

There is no "solid" answer to this but here is an educated guess:

Enanthate alters serum concentrations in a less abrupt manner compared to ace, which reduces chemoreceptor activation. The speed, or abrupt nature of the increase, is the main reason tren e doesn't cause the cough at the frequency that ace does.

Methods of reducing the chance of the cough in relation to this would be to inject slowly over a 30 second period preferably with a 25 gauge needle and to avoid injecting more than 1.5CC per pin site.
These methods should help slow down the increase above basline levels - helping to close the gap between ace & enanthate in relation to tren cough symptoms.

Or you can just inject sub-q

 

[Harnold]

In my opinion you're talking about a rather risky combo of adding albuterol, clen, etc. with Tren. Tren increases BP and resting HR. Now you're going to take something that will increase heart rate, and possibly blood pressure as well. Then you're going to try and push your cardiovascular system? That doesn't sound like a good combo. If you do, your top end will still not be what it usually is without taking any of those compounds. It will take much less to raise your heart rate, because it's raised to begin with. So, as soon as you start you're going to be up there. I would tread very lightly.

Good point havasu, I'd like to retract my statement regarding the addition of clen to this cycle. I don't want to cause a heart attack with poor advice. havasu is correct, dangerous addition and not worth it.
fcking with the heart is not a good move.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

Tren is known to increase a prostaglandin in the body. also known as prostaglandin F2Alpha. This creates bronchial constriction and the severity of this is very much dose-dependent. so this is why cardio is often harder, best to stay with a dose that works with minimal sides , if this is Tren E 600 is ok, if its Tren A its a ton IMO

 

[lachrymist]

I heard singular helps.

 

[fitguy22]

I'm on tren a ,testp and Dbol cycle.i do my cardio for 10 mins int he end i can't do it longer, i run out of breath like I'm an over weight guy tryna lose weight LOL

 

[halfwit]

I do use either albuterol or ephedrine to offset the effects of tren. It doesn't COMPLETELY balance it out, but it does help me quite a bit. With that said, I do monitor my bp daily and have access to meds if needed.

Of course, YMMV as we're all different.

My .02c

 

[SamSport]

ephedrine does the trick for me; I take like 72mg (very tolerant to stims) maybe 30-40mins before cardio. Helps a lot in my case, but when I'm at 700mg/week it doesnt do much tbh, cardio still remain shit

 

[3J]

i stay away from tren for that reason specifically.. im a high endurance athlete

 

[China_Wall]

I have never experienced Tren cough, but I have always used Tren Enanthate... Why is it that Tren Ace seems to produce this yet never Tren E is what I would also like to know.

I've had some nasty bouts of the "cough" while on tren e bro... just as severe, and as much of a surprise as with tren a