Tren and Sustanon (sust) first cycle

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Gold88

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Tren and sust first cycle

First cycle, have 2, 10ml bottles of tren and sust(4 bottles total) I'm 23 yrs old 5'6 190 lbs and a competitive hockey player. From what I've read so far I know this cycle is not ideal for first time but it's all I can get my hands on. I've seen a lot of different opinions for dosing and how often to shoot. Looking for some help here. I have clomid on hand for pct as well(again guys this is all I was able to get, any help with this is much appreciated)
 
Welcome to Ology Gold.

That's a good weight for 5'6" man, what's your bf %?

Hold off on the tren, if you can't get test e/c instead, then run sust only. I'm not sure how it is dosed, but I'm thinking 20 ml won't be enough for a full cycle, though...

I'm sure those who are more knowledgeable will chime in.
 
Tren is for more experienced users. Test only for a first cycle. Tren is bad on the cardiovascular system and causes shortness in breath. Not a good idea for sports.
 
Regardless of what you do, you don't need tren on your first cycle. Some test e or c will provide more than sufficient results.
 
Body fat % is about 12...if I need more sust more a sust only cycle I can get more...I also can get armidex which I'm relieved about. I don't have the bottle with me now so not sure what the potency is but I will post it when I get home. Thanks for the info so far guys
 
Gold88 said:
First cycle, have 2, 10ml bottles of tren and sust(4 bottles total) I'm 23 yrs old 5'6 190 lbs and a competitive hockey player. From what I've read so far I know this cycle is not ideal for first time but it's all I can get my hands on. I've seen a lot of different opinions for dosing and how often to shoot. Looking for some help here. I have clomid on hand for post cycle therapy (pct) as well(again guys this is all I was able to get, any help with this is much appreciated)
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wow, 5'6" 190... there was a pretty good russian in the 70's/80's named Krutov, known as "the tank"... had similar stats to u lol

I will also say that tren is NOT a good idea if ur playing hockey, it does affect cardio in a negative way... stick with just the sust for this run... inject twice per wk (500mg per wk) for 12-15 wks (so ur gonna need one more vial of sust)
 
Yea I was in the army for 5 years and did a lot of lifting in that time...I was actually able to exchange the tren for deca and I'll have 3 10 ml bottles of both the deca and sust. Thanks for the pointers on how tren screws with your cardiovascular endurance. So how should I split it up? I also picked up Some adex...30 tablets.
 
SonOfZeu$ said:
Wouldn't Winstrol (winny) be better since it increases your carido vas?
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No. Winstrol is pointless unless you're going on stage for a competition. The negative effects of it outweigh the temporary physical effects it gives you. Not worth running Winstrol (winny). And as for deca.. I mean as your first cycle I would still only run Sust just to gauge how your body is going to react. Save the Deca for your 2nd run bro.
 
Gold, what level of hockey do you play at? You're not going to find any benefit to test in hockey, and in fact you might find yourself at a disadvantage from quad/calf pumps and being winded.

If you're doing it to improve your game... consider very low dose ephedrine instead.

190lbs is already plenty big at 5'6
 
I play college hockey but that's not the reason I'm doing it. The fact that being one of the shortest guys on the team does have its disadvantages but my current weight more than compensates for my lack of height. I'm going to run sust only and hold onto the deca. Now I have 30 tablets of adex and 30 tabs clomid. I'm wondering how much sust to shoot EOD, and whether to use adex during the cycle or keep it for pct with the clomid. Also if I shoot in quads and glutes is there a soreness that would mess with my ability to skate?
 
Gold88 said:
I play college hockey but that's not the reason I'm doing it. The fact that being one of the shortest guys on the team does have its disadvantages but my current weight more than compensates for my lack of height. I'm going to run sust only and hold onto the deca. Now I have 30 tablets of adex and 30 tabs clomid. I'm wondering how much sust to shoot EOD, and whether to use adex during the cycle or keep it for post cycle therapy (pct) with the clomid. Also if I shoot in quads and glutes is there a soreness that would mess with my ability to skate?
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Ya the sust is going to be painful. Always is. I mean limp leg sore. Also if you get sides and your running sust and deca for your first go how will you know what's causing the sides. There are basic reason why everyone says to run test only cycle for the first cycle.
 
tren, deca, npp, masteron, etc in the first cycle, suppose many many side effects.


and need anastrozole, cabergoline or pramipexole, in need exemestane, mesterolone during cycle, letrozole in case of gyno problem, for some people add of stanozolol for prolactin level, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), arimidex if anastrozolle doesn't shown effect, and all of of these compounds bring their own side effects... how sides effects would you collect before to understand than the first cycle have to be natural hormone ( testosterone) have to be the first raisonnable cycle possible for anybody.
 
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