Tren, cyp, or sust?

Cobra Strike said:
well if your going to add another compound on your second cycle then deca is a safe one to go with...you wont have the hard look probably...deca is known to cause bloat. Also if you want to gain mass bro your going to have to give up a few things like abs and cuts and shit..your going to have to eat like a horse and up your fat intake....also dont cut after you bulk...bulk at least twice before you cut...i go 3 times. If you want a more hard look while bulking then tren is the one you want
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Yepper dipper skipper! If you are going for a more hard and muscular looking bulk then keep the Tren!!! Tren is amazing shit but you should know about how test runs in your body before trying tren, since you state you have already ran 2-3 cycles and have some knowledge then if you run tren and have some crazy sides you'll know it's from the tren! As for your info on the Deca, that is stupid shit! 125 mg a week is not doin' shit for you!!! I think you should do some major reading in this forum, read the sticky's alone in the different sections and you will probably answer most of your questions there!!!
I think Cyp is easier to keep your levels stable than Sus but thats just someone's opinion.
 
yeah i like how cyp is the long lasting easier to control ester. Sustanon (sust) wasnt the smartest choice for my first cycle. i dunno if i just got lucky with it or what but i got great gains off it and im tempted to give it another shot. think it was just because it was my first cycle? and should move onto the cyp?
 
Football13 said:
haha i could suck up the keg i guess even though summer is soon... but you think 500mg of Sustanon (sust) a week..pinning it monday and thursdays. and then 250mg of deca every thursday would do good? 10 weeks
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as starks stated you can keep your levels more even with the cyp but if you have the sus then thats fine two...I inject sus mon wed fri...the more frequent the more even your levels and you can take more advantage of the prop ester in it.

as far as the deca goes...250 is normally used for guys that just want to lube their joints up on a cycle...I would bump it to 400 and the test to 600.

the only thing thats going to suck is your pct...with sus and deca your running two long estered compounds which means your going to have to wait for 3 weeks to pct...i would stop the sus with the deca and run test e or c for 2 more weeks and then pct in 2weeks after...but thats just what I would do ;)
 
Football13 said:
yeah i like how cyp is the long lasting easier to control ester. Sustanon (sust) wasnt the smartest choice for my first cycle. i dunno if i just got lucky with it or what but i got great gains off it and im tempted to give it another shot. think it was just because it was my first cycle? and should move onto the cyp?
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No! Bro look, all the advise in the world doesn't mean shit in this world unless you're just a pure dumbass! Juice works differently in EVERYONE!!! You should know this by now, some ppl respond differently to even different esters of the same compound! If Sus works for you then go with what you know!!! Advise is just advise! Experience is worth more than that! Now on things like Deca and Tren you have no fucking experience so advise is the best thing you got going for you in that reguard! You should stick with sus if you like it and it works! If it aint broke don't fix it!
What you need to do now is look at Tren and Deca and decide there what is gonna be best for you!!! Tren is very powerful stuff! It is IMO the most Androgenic of AAS and works wonders for most ppl I know that run it! But it can come with some nasty concequences depending on the individual!!! If you decide to go with Tren just make sure you start with the ACETATE ester so you don't get stuck with sides for a long time! Acetate will be out of your body in 3 up to 5 or so days! Enanthate will be in your body for 12 to 14 days so if you have sides then your stuck for a while. Once you use Acetate and see that it works fine with you then jump to Enanthate. Learn a little more about esters and their half lives and just about this stuff in general! Make sure to have the proper PCT's on hand before you ever start!
 
deca and test suspension**** sorry about that. kk so if i were running the Sustanon (sust) mon wed and fri and deca. and i leave the cyp out what would it look like. i really like the idea of the 3 shots a week for the prop and phenylprop in Sustanon (sust) im just brutal with math figuring the amounts each shot would require
 
Football13 said:
deca and test suspension**** sorry about that. kk so if i were running the Sustanon (sust) mon wed and fri and deca. and i leave the cyp out what would it look like. i really like the idea of the 3 shots a week for the prop and phenylprop in Sustanon (sust) im just brutal with math figuring the amounts each shot would require
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ok I will help you figure that out...but your gonna have to help me...

post up your cycle and amounts per week...I will also need to know the concetrations of each one of your compounds in the cycle
 
Cobra Strike said:
ok I will help you figure that out...but your gonna have to help me...

post up your cycle and amounts per week...I will also need to know the concetrations of each one of your compounds in the cycle
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If you don't listen to Cobra bro, he will take ur ass to juice jail, after all.... he is the Chief of the Gear Police!!! :brownnose
 
what are your stats bro/prev cycles so its easier to give a lay out to you and like cobra said what is the concentration on each...and whats your pct lay out?
 
Both the Sustanon (sust) and deca are 250mg/ml. I wanna do 3 shots a week of Sustanon (sust) to get the full use of the prop and phenyl prop. So 600mg Sustanon (sust) a week soumd good? And i dont wanna risk tryin to get away with more deca than Sustanon (sust) like you said some ppl can do. So 400mg a week or less? And i was gonna go .5mg arimidex everyday and have nolva on hand during too. And then run nolva and clomid after. Nolva 40/40/20/20.
 
And for tdubs, im 6'2 220, 12% bf. Cycle history..sust 10 weeks , 500mg/week. Then i ran Winstrol (winny) and prop for 6 weeks eod injections.
 
Football13 said:
Both the Sustanon (sust) and deca are 250mg/ml. I wanna do 3 shots a week of Sustanon (sust) to get the full use of the prop and phenyl prop. So 600mg Sustanon (sust) a week soumd good? And i dont wanna risk tryin to get away with more deca than Sustanon (sust) like you said some ppl can do. So 400mg a week or less? And i was gonna go .5mg arimidex everyday and have nolva on hand during too. And then run nolva and clomid after. Nolva 40/40/20/20.
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ok...so I dont know how long your running your stuff but if your doing sus 250 3x a week at 600mg then you will be doing .8ml every shot

and deca 250 x3 a week at 400mg a week is .5ml every shot

forget the nolva during cycle...the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is plenty
 
Thanks haha math gets me sometimes. Would Winstrol (winny) be worth running in this cycle at all? Startin in week 5 or 6?
 
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