Tren dosing quest.

[jerseystepup]

I just recently threw Tren A in with my cyp... I was advised/read to start the tren at 50mgs EOD, assess how i react to it, and increase my dosage from there... My question is, at what point should i realize if it's time to (or not) increase the dosage.. For what it's worth today was my second shot.. Thanks

 

[edogger]

50mg eod is plenty for a first time usage, there should be no need to increase.

 

[Teutonic]

yes..go slow...don t try to become Arnold this cycle..get what you can out of as low a dose as you can..and should side s kik in..50 wil clear up easier than 100..eod.

 

[1badmofo]

with a short ester you can raise or lower the dose and know pretty quick what you like. 50 EOD is a good starting point, but is only 175mg per week, so if you handle 50 EOD fine then try 75 EOD. I'm running 125 EOD on my first run right now and it's great.

 

[Amish]

I'm a few weeks in on my tren A cycle stacked with test c. I started at 100mg eod and had pretty much no sides. I have now upped my dose to 150eod 3 weeks into cycle and I feel great. I think its individual really to every person. Some people react really badly to tren and easily get sides from it.

Also just remember that with tren there does come a point where more is not better and will just harm your health more than anyting.

What are you doing with this cycle btw?

cutting, recomp, or bulkin?

 

[Massive123]

IMO a large part of why some say 50mg and some say 150mg eod isn't only because some can handle sides better than others... Some gear is properly dosed & some is underdosed so it skews the recommended dosages... Same with test & other compounds.

 

[Hacksquater]

IMO a large part of why some say 50mg and some say 150mg eod isn't only because some can handle sides better than others... Some gear is properly dosed & some is underdosed so it skews the recommended dosages... Same with test & other compounds.

Agreed. I am going to be doing 50mg, then 75, and then 100 on my first Tren cycle (thread below) but I am also an experienced lifter with multiple cycles under my belt. If your tren is pure, then I thing 50mg should be great for a first run!

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/185304-tren-pure-f-ing-magic-cycle.html

 

[juced_porkchop]

I just recently threw Tren A in with my cyp... I was advised/read to start the tren at 50mgs EOD, assess how i react to it, and increase my dosage from there... My question is, at what point should i realize if it's time to (or not) increase the dosage.. For what it's worth today was my second shot.. Thanks

I would not rec going passed 150mg eod REGARDLESS of how well you feel the first go around.
and I rec you start at 100mg eod and is issues arise lower to 50mg eod. but even if you feel great after A FEW WEEKS I still dont rec you go passed 150mg eod.
also stay below 10wks with trenA (I say aim for 8 weeks with 10 weeks of test in there (going a week or 2 longer with just test after you stop the tren.
give it a few weeks.
basicly stay at 100mg eod if you FEEL liek you need ot lower it then do so.

just make sure your using some test with the tren.

 

[juced_porkchop]

Have ran tren e @600 week and 1.5g test e and 800mg eq, HUGE gains... didn't sleep for 3 month

currently 100mg tren ED... defo check for sides before loading a shit stack of gear... sleep pattern if f-ed up, valium/zanax helps

run 50mg ED, if you good bump to 75-100 for 8 week, my .02

bad shti to get into....

try kavakava or valarien root teas/pills.
or cut the tren.

dotn knwo why anyone would bother with tren if thwey couldent sleep.
i can go 500mg ew trenE and sleep.
if i couldent i wouldent use it period. and when i sy sleep i mean with OUT drugs.

just my oppinion thow

 

[jerseystepup]

I'm a few weeks in on my tren A cycle stacked with test c. I started at 100mg eod and had pretty much no sides. I have now upped my dose to 150eod 3 weeks into cycle and I feel great. I think its individual really to every person. Some people react really badly to tren and easily get sides from it.

Also just remember that with tren there does come a point where more is not better and will just harm your health more than anyting.

What are you doing with this cycle btw?

cutting, recomp, or bulkin?

Im not really doing anything with this cycle as far as goals go, I could care less about how "lean" i look... Im almost 30... have a good amount of cycles under my belt, but up until this cycle started i was off for 12 months... heres how this cycle was laid out.

1-14 test cyp 500 mgs/weel
1-4 30 mgs dbol ED
1-4 50 mgs Anadrol ED
7-13 50 (or more)mgs tren a EOD
11-16 50mg winstrol ED

So far i feel great... Strongest ive been in a long time...

and of course PCT is in line, along with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) through out... and ive been running letro at a low dose also.

 

[edogger]

def wouldnt run more than 50mg eod since youre running a decent amount of test and winy with it. Remember 175mg a week of tren is equal to 525mg of test. How much do you weigh? Ive been cycling for 5 years, done 3 tren cycles, and weigh a lean 215lbs and am still making good gains off cycles like this:

week 1-12 Test E 200mg week
week 1-12 tren ace 50mg ED
week 3-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250iu 2x week

also id drop the letro since youre off the dbol and drol now. Tren and Winstrol (winny) will keep you plenty dry.

and you might want to consider some ambien or xanax if you like your sleep.

 

[juced_porkchop]

yeah, herbal remedies (cough cough) don't do shit for me. If you abuse anything, it can be bad effect. 5 mg of valium or .25mg zanax is harmless if prescribed by MD.

kavakava is very strong man im sur eu never used that then take 1g of a 84% extrace ad tell me you dotn feel ithahaha . lol love the stuff.

just be carful with the zanax. i just here TOOMANY bad storys with people over using that shit.

 

[Hacksquater]

Remember: easy come easy go! The slower approach, IMO is a better one. The eventual more gains with less abuse.

 

[Trenbolin]

500mg Tren Enth is becoming too much for me. mainly the mental effects. going down to 400mg per week and up my test dose to 750mg per week i think

 

[Shaptown]

valerian is the most disgusting smelling shit i have ever encountered but it definately helped with sleep.

i havent tried kava kava but it sounds promising...

 

[Hacksquater]

Melatonin works to get you to sleep, but if you get up in the middle of the night you might need more to go back.

 

[Stangostrone]

melatonin works to get you to sleep, but if you get up in the middle of the night you might need more to go back.

x2

 

[MotorIHead]

I just recently threw Tren A in with my cyp... I was advised/read to start the tren at 50mgs EOD, assess how i react to it, and increase my dosage from there... My question is, at what point should i realize if it's time to (or not) increase the dosage.. For what it's worth today was my second shot.. Thanks

Tren should be injected daily. The best way to run Tren Ace is 40-75mg ED. If u run EOD u take a chance in spikes and drops in ur blood levels. Which will in turn worsen the sides... sleep, agression & strength to name a couple. It's easier to do EOD but ur just making it harder on the body to cope. IMO if I were u I would run it 50mg ED if all goes well jump it to 75mg ED.

50mg eod is plenty for a first time usage, there should be no need to increase.

50mg EOD is not enough dosage. That's like running a 200mg/week cycle of test for 8 weeks. Kind of pointless.

 

[edogger]

Tren should be injected daily. The best way to run Tren Ace is 40-75mg ED. If u run EOD u take a chance in spikes and drops in ur blood levels. Which will in turn worsen the sides... sleep, agression & strength to name a couple. It's easier to do EOD but ur just making it harder on the body to cope. IMO if I were u I would run it 50mg ED if all goes well jump it to 75mg ED.



50mg EOD is not enough dosage. That's like running a 200mg/week cycle of test for 8 weeks. Kind of pointless.

lol, no its not. Tren is 3x as strong as test so running 50mg eod is like running 525mg of test. ive ran as little as 50mg eod and as much as 100mg ed and there was absoluetly no difference except for the side effects were worse on the higher dose. Plus hes on 500mg of cyp a week so its like running a gram of gear between the 2. Thats plenty for ANYONE. If you need more than that then you dont know how to eat or train or both.

as for the ED or EOD dosing, i had to switch to ED when running a higher dose to help reduce the sides but running a lower dose ive never had a problem with EOD injects.

. I'm a complete noob to gear mind u. But from what I have read I should do a test cycle 500mg a week, 250mg twice a week for 12 weeks. !

Lol i just found this. A month ago youre a complete newb to gear and now youre a tren expert? Some of you guys seriously make me laugh. You shouldnt be handing out advice, you should be taking it. Ive been using tren for almost 3 years, done 4 cycles of varying doses. What in the world could possible make you think you know more than me?

Youre killing me.

 

[MotorIHead]

lol, no its not. Tren is 3x as strong as test so running 50mg eod is like running 525mg of test.

Which is the same thing as running it 25mg ED, which in the profiles section it says clearly it should be ran at 37.5 to 75mg ED. So how would 25mg ED be enough ?

ive ran as little as 50mg eod and as much as 100mg ed and there was absoluetly no difference except for the side effects were worse on the higher dose.

I don't see how running 4X as much tren u get the same results as 4x less ? Side's I can see how their worse obviously. Results should be way better.

Plus hes on 500mg of cyp a week so its like running a gram of gear between the 2. Thats plenty for ANYONE. If you need more than that then you dont know how to eat or train or both.

as for the ED or EOD dosing, i had to switch to ED when running a higher dose to help reduce the sides but running a lower dose ive never had a problem with EOD injects.

That's fine, that works for u. Some people are different though, I mean some people are fine with a deca only cycle. Does that mean that we all are going to be ? NO, that said to keep blood levels stable it should be run ED like I said. U can run it EOD, I didn't say u have to run it ED.

Lol i just found this. A month ago youre a complete newb to gear and now youre a tren expert? Some of you guys seriously make me laugh. You shouldnt be handing out advice, you should be taking it. Ive been using tren for almost 3 years, done 4 cycles of varying doses. What in the world could possible make you think you know more than me?

I don't know how long ago that was, but yes before coming to this site I was a complete noob to gear and dieting. I've done a lot of research and taken a lot of advice. I never said I was a tren expert, if I sounded like one then that's good I guess ? That just means my research is spot on. It's really pretty simple just go read the profiles section and I'm sure my post will agree with the profiles section 100%. That said, if it does then I guess I do know more about tren then u do.

Youre killing me.

BTW don't take any of this negative, I'm just answering back to u. It just looks like we have a difference in opinion I guess ? No I've never taken tren either, I'm pretty sure u were wondering. So yes all my info is from reading on how other people use it, and using the profiles section on 5 different forums.