Tren sub Q?

[Pantalones]

I've read a lot of posts talking about how it results in less pain, reduced cough, and a slower release/longer half life, but there's no real verdict on whether or not this is effective. Has anyone here done it? Did it work?

 

[UserAt204]

I've pinned everything SubQ and labs with test. There's no point in tren, with test, it's for a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. You don't want to pin more than .5ml in each side so 1ml total a week. With test it keeps serum levels more stable due to slower release from the lack of blood flow, it also helps lower the conversion to estro.

If you were pinning ace, I never did more than .5 once a week on each side of stomach. It will burn, sting, leave a lump, and can be painful until use to it.

Tren cough is overrated. Yes it happens, lay down and get a drink, don't bend over and freak out. It's not a big deal and if you pin slow and correctly it doesn't happen. Typically it's when you nick a vessel, but all AAS will cause you to cough in that instance.

 

[WindowCleaner]

I've always done my Tren A sub Q 50-100 mg in the quads. I didnt notice a difference from IM injections. Only downside for me is that sometimes when I pull the needle out, a little juice will come out. Never had that problem with IM injections.

 

[Pantalones]

I've always done my Tren A sub Q 50-100 mg in the quads. I didnt notice a difference from IM injections. Only downside for me is that sometimes when I pull the needle out, a little juice will come out. Never had that problem with IM injections.

I was thinking I'd switch it up and do one injection IM the other sub Q like an EOD thing. My main concern is absorbtion. Is any lost sub Q over IM?

 

[Moppy1]

IM for any depot is better than subQ. More sustained delivery.

 

[UserAt204]

Actually that's 100% wrong SubQ is the better method for all esters, but I've found out to avoid lumps all the time you don't pinch the area doing SubQ it causes an inflammatory response and 25 5/8 or 26 3/8 instead of slin pin. Slin pins are so small the basically cause inflammation with oils because of the small stream.

You actually can do a decent amount if done right, I was using an old method, subQ slows absorption.

 

[3J]

so your using ace correct??

i had a friend of mine experiement with metyl tren sub q injections.... needless to say i wont recommend it to anyone.. it didn't work out too well for him

 

[Moppy1]

Actually that's 100% wrong SubQ is the better method for all esters, but I've found out to avoid lumps all the time you don't pinch the area doing SubQ it causes an inflammatory response and 25 5/8 or 26 3/8 instead of slin pin. Slin pins are so small the basically cause inflammation with oils because of the small stream.

You actually can do a decent amount if done right, I was using an old method, subQ slows absorption.

Well, seems you are correct UserAt204. Found this single study:

New research conducted at the Royal Victoria Hospital in Canada at the endocrine clinic tested the viability of subcutaneous shots.

The study involved 22 patients who were using the clinic for testosterone replacement therapy. The AAS was testosterone enanthate. The subjects were instructed to self-administer their testosterone subcutaneously once per week. The same 1ml that would have been injected once every 2 weeks was divided up into .5ml weekly injections. Blood tests which were conducted periodically throughout the 1 year investigation were suprisingly and unquestionably consistent. For exactly 100% of patients enrolled, testosterone levels remained in the physiological (normal) range for the entire duration of the study. This included both peak and trough levels (high & low during each week). Furthermore injections were extremely well tolerated. Each patient took over 50 injections and not one single adverse reactionn was noticed at the injection site.

The investigation concluded that not only was subcutaneous testosterone enanthate a viable option as far as drug release , but it was safe, cheap and far more comfortable for their patients compared to intramuscular injections.

Well it may be unrealistic to inject a full throttle cycle via subcutaneous. Recall the patients were injecting .5ml a week. And we all know there are many aas users who far exceed this volume/dosage on a weekly basis. It also does not mean that every oil-based aas, even in low to moderate dosages, will be viable for subcutaneous. It is possible that some aas based on their preservatives, carriers, concentrations, or natural properties of active substances may be more irritating to local tissues when given subcutaneously.

Still the possibility of a subcutaneous cycle cannot be excluded especially for those using reasonable doses in the 1 ml range.

Saudi Med J, 2006 Dec;27(12):1843-6 courtesty of W. Llewellyn

 

[Moppy1]

Just that the couple times I ended up in the Sub-q tissue it hurt like a mutha!