TRT at 19 years old??....

At your age your metabolizm isnt going to let you gain on trt ether. Slow your roll and learn how to eat to grow first. Its 80% diet even on the heavest cycles. I kniw youndont want to hear this but it would be a horrible mistake to use steroids at your age and your testosterone levels. Elevating you test levels is just going to thin you out.
 
At your age your metabolizm isnt going to let you gain on trt ether. Slow your roll and learn how to eat to grow first. Its 80% diet even on the heavest cycles. I kniw youndont want to hear this but it would be a horrible mistake to use steroids at your age and your testosterone levels. Elevating you test levels is just going to thin you out.

I already know hot to eat and train right, I've been doing it since I was 16, but this isn't even about lifting.

I simply want to walk around with the testosterone of two high T men in my veins, it will make people like me and respect me more, and it would help me out. It would help me get more and better quality girls, and better and higher paying jobs. I already wasted the best years of my life feeling like shit, I don't want to waste my early 20s being unhappy and incel too.
 
Why people dont recommend that guy to take testosterone?

High Testosterone = Success = More money = Beautiful girls...

Low Testosterone = Failure = Less money = Ugly girls...

Think about that. What would you choose? 40 years with good life or 80 years with bad life?

OP, I dont say you to take testosterone. I just wrote my thoughts.
 
One of the worst thread I've seen in a while. OP, I won't sugar coat it.....you're an idiot. Plain and simple. Grow up. You have no idea what you're getting yourself into. Your 19 years old with above average test levels. You think trt is going to change your life and make you the alpha male that everyone respects? Absolutely not. You won't even feel a difference. People with TT levels of 100ng/dL....they will notice a difference.

Grow up and stop arguing with people who know what they're talking about. You're just confirming what everyone already feels about this generation. Lazy, entitled, know-it-alls who are looking for any short cut. Make your own confidence like a real man and stop relying on synthetic hormones to make you a man.
 
Why people dont recommend that guy to take testosterone?

High Testosterone = Success = More money = Beautiful girls...

Low Testosterone = Failure = Less money = Ugly girls...

Think about that. What would you choose? 40 years with good life or 80 years with bad life?

OP, I dont say you to take testosterone. I just wrote my thoughts.

I'd choose a week of the good life over any amount of the bad life.

One of the worst thread I've seen in a while. OP, I won't sugar coat it.....you're an idiot. Plain and simple. Grow up. You have no idea what you're getting yourself into. Your 19 years old with above average test levels. You think trt is going to change your life and make you the alpha male that everyone respects? Absolutely not. You won't even feel a difference. People with TT levels of 100ng/dL....they will notice a difference.

Grow up and stop arguing with people who know what they're talking about. You're just confirming what everyone already feels about this generation. Lazy, entitled, know-it-alls who are looking for any short cut. Make your own confidence like a real man and stop relying on synthetic hormones to make you a man.

You're the one being an idiot saying I'm lazy and entitled when you don't even know me, but just saw few posts I made which are based on facts and research as well as personal experience of mine and people around me. I'm being fucking entitled to have my basic needs as a human met? You don't know me or the things I do. I'm a very hardworking person and always focus on self improvement, I'm not looking to take a shortcut, theres no other ways to the place I want to reach. No amount of work or effort will give you what super high T levels will. I want to ascend.

Natural levels start to decline at like 30, at which point I will be forced to TRT, why the fuck should I waste what's left of my pseudo youth instead of ascending and being on godmode? Why should I spend it in misery and sadness and anger when I could take something which will improve me in so many ways, and won't have any negative consequence? I'm not going to be a fucking roided monster or a bodybuilder, I just want higher T at a conservative dose.

What the fuck difference does it make that I'm 19? I'm doing the X-Rays and if my growth plates aren't closed yet I'm putting it off for a while. People here said do it at 24 or 25 what difference would it make for me other than wasting 6 precious years and being FULL of regret that I didn't start earlier and all that potnetial and the elevated life quality I could have had was wasted for NOTHING.

Is it because these places are full of old(er) people who wasted their youth and missed out on prime jailbaits and now want me to do the same??? I'm not even fucking young, what's with the hate on younger folks.
 
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I'd choose a week of the good life over any amount of the bad life.



You're the one being an idiot saying I'm lazy and entitled when you don't even know me, but just saw few posts I made which are based on facts and research as well as personal experience of mine and people around me. I'm being fucking entitled to have my basic needs as a human met? You don't know me or the things I do. I'm a very hardworking person and always focus on self improvement, I'm not looking to take a shortcut, theres no other ways to the place I want to reach. No amount of work or effort will give you what super high T levels will. I want to ascend.

Natural levels start to decline at like 30, at which point I will be forced to TRT, why the fuck should I waste what's left of my pseudo youth instead of ascending and being on godmode? Why should I spend it in misery and sadness and anger when I could take something which will improve me in so many ways, and won't have any negative consequence? I'm not going to be a fucking roided monster or a bodybuilder, I just want higher T at a conservative dose.

What the fuck difference does it make that I'm 19? I'm doing the X-Rays and if my growth plates aren't closed yet I'm putting it off for a while. People here said do it at 24 or 25 what difference would it make for me other than wasting 6 precious years and being FULL of regret that I didn't start earlier and all that potnetial and the elevated life quality I could have had was wasted for NOTHING.

Is it because these places are full of old(er) people who wasted their youth and missed out on prime jailbaits and now want me to do the same??? I'm not even fucking young, what's with the hate on younger folks.

You are extremely misguided and undereducated on the subject. I don't care how much research you think you did....you didn't even scratch the surface on the amount of research and experience myself and many other members here have. If you can't have your needs met with test levels of 700 plus then you have other issues to attend to...not your hormones. At this point, I don't care what you do. If you really think 200mg of test a week will change anything about your life then you are sadly misinformed. But go ahead and think you know everything and waste your time and money trying to be an alpha male. Then when you turn 28 and realize you want kids you'll think about how much of a naive fool you were at 19. You think at 19 anyone thinks they want kids? I was anti kids until 25....now I can't wait to start a family. You're too young to know anything about what you want in the long run.

I'll say it again....GROW UP.
 
You are extremely misguided and undereducated on the subject. I don't care how much research you think you did....you didn't even scratch the surface on the amount of research and experience myself and many other members here have. If you can't have your needs met with test levels of 700 plus then you have other issues to attend to...not your hormones. At this point, I don't care what you do. If you really think 200mg of test a week will change anything about your life then you are sadly misinformed. But go ahead and think you know everything and waste your time and money trying to be an alpha male. Then when you turn 28 and realize you want kids you'll think about how much of a naive fool you were at 19. You think at 19 anyone thinks they want kids? I was anti kids until 25....now I can't wait to start a family. You're too young to know anything about what you want in the long run.

I'll say it again....GROW UP.

But I do want kids. I just won't have any kids because I won't curse any kid to be alive with my subhuman genetics. It's extremely selfish and immoral to have children and me being older won't change the facts of antinatalism. And the change wouldn't be 200mg, I'm interested in at least 1200mg, more like 1500mg which is more than double from 700mg.

What am I misinformed about? All those stories and real life experience I've seen where people go on a cycle and get treated with more respect, get more and higher quality girls. Or the reasearch proving that higher T people have higher social status and higher quality jobs as well as life. I simply want to LIVE. Is that too fucking much to ask after suffering for 19 years?
 
But I do want kids. I just won't have any kids because I won't curse any kid to be alive with my subhuman genetics. It's extremely selfish and immoral to have children

Huh? You wouldn't be alive if your parents would of had that mentality. Stop believing everything you see on south park and do your own thinking.
 
But I do want kids. I just won't have any kids because I won't curse any kid to be alive with my subhuman genetics. It's extremely selfish and immoral to have children and me being older won't change the facts of antinatalism. And the change wouldn't be 200mg, I'm interested in at least 1200mg, more like 1500mg which is more than double from 700mg.

What am I misinformed about? All those stories and real life experience I've seen where people go on a cycle and get treated with more respect, get more and higher quality girls. Or the reasearch proving that higher T people have higher social status and higher quality jobs as well as life. I simply want to LIVE. Is that too fucking much to ask after suffering for 19 years?

YOU HAVE HIGH T! 700ng/dL is above average. That's about what your blood results convert to.

You're confusing mg's with ng/dL. Mg's is how much you would be injecting. ng/dL is the concentration of testosterone in your blood. Most people inject 100-150mg of testosterone per week for trt and guess where that puts their testosterone levels? RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE NATURALLY.

Going from 700ng/dL to 1000-1500ng/dL is not going to be a life changing experience. You'll hardly notice a difference. If you seriously can't be confident and get yourself in good shape at 19 years old with test levels in the 700's then there's something mentally or emotionally you need to address. Your hormone levels are NOT to blame for your short comings.
 
YOU HAVE HIGH T! 700ng/dL is above average. That's about what your blood results convert to.

You're confusing mg's with ng/dL. Mg's is how much you would be injecting. ng/dL is the concentration of testosterone in your blood. Most people inject 100-150mg of testosterone per week for trt and guess where that puts their testosterone levels? RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE NATURALLY.

Going from 700ng/dL to 1000-1500ng/dL is not going to be a life changing experience. You'll hardly notice a difference. If you seriously can't be confident and get yourself in good shape at 19 years old with test levels in the 700's then there's something mentally or emotionally you need to address. Your hormone levels are NOT to blame for your short comings.

OP, at this point I feel like there's not much point trying to convince you, you've already made your mind up. Just know that what you are doing is extremely idiotic and a lot of the points you made are completely wrong/misguided.

Jozifp is 100% correct man. You won't even notice a difference going on TRT. Seriously, it won't make even the tiniest of difference except to elevate your estradiol.

TRT will NOT magically make you alpha, will NOT make people respect you, will NOT make girls want you more, will NOT help you in the gym... you are so misguided it's really quite painful to read. I'm not bashing you man - just completely disagree. End of the day do what you wanna do but don't expect ANYTHING from doing this except headaches.

You will need to
*inject twice per week with 23-25g pins
*inject twice per week with slin pins
*take a pill anywhere from twice per week to every day
*donate blood every three months
*bloodwork every 1-3 months for the first year or so
*bloodwork every 3-6months for the rest of your life thereafter
*manage estradiol control (this will take constant monitoring your whole life as it will change based on bf and hepatic function)


And all.... for what? What are you REALLY hoping to accomplish with this? As mentioned above, none of the 'effects' you're looking for are going to be achieved through TRT... So why go through all the above for the rest of your life?


Oh yeah, and I would literally kill a man to have your natural test levels lol. You are waay above average dude, even for your age. You were blessed with naturally high T... don't fuck it up for nothing!
 
you wan't to deliberately put yourself on TRT at 19 just because "you plan on doing it later on anyway". thats like killing yourself now because "it's gonna happen anyway".

"I simply want to walk around with the testosterone of two high T men in my veins, it will make people like me and respect me more, and it would help me out. It would help me get more and better quality girls, and better and higher paying jobs. I already wasted the best years of my life feeling like shit, I don't want to waste my early 20s being unhappy and incel too."

hahaha you think it just works like that? you think you just shoot up some test and boom your confidence skyrockets and all of a sudden you're banging 10's? sounds like what you're having is internal mental problems with yourself that you should be taking care of. maybe some therapy will help. it's not normal to think "maybe if i shoot some synthetic testosterone, and walk around with test levels of 2 men, i'll get hotter girls and people will like me better and my life will be easier"
 
Seriously guys, please tell me with 1500 ng/dl testosterone, how do you feel exactly? You have confidence with girls with that testosterone level?
 
Seriously guys, please tell me with 1500 ng/dl testosterone, how do you feel exactly? You have confidence with girls with that testosterone level?
assuming your e2 is in check, you feel good. horny, energetic, etc etc.

how do you want us to answer? "omg dude! you feel amazing! you feel like god you feel like rambo you're a ripped sex machine every girl is just falling to her knees for you!! and you have to fight the girls off with a stick.. shit.. life is amazing at 1,500ng/dl"

loll all jokes aside, you should focus on the ROOT of the problem. a recurring word that i keep seeing in this thread is "girls" and "confidence" and you seem to be DIRECTLY relating that to high testosteorne levels. yes they are connected in some way, but if you do not address the root of the problem you will never improve even if your test levels are 10,000ng/dl. believe that.
 
assuming your e2 is in check, you feel good. horny, energetic, etc etc.

how do you want us to answer? "omg dude! you feel amazing! you feel like god you feel like rambo you're a ripped sex machine every girl is just falling to her knees for you!! and you have to fight the girls off with a stick.. shit.. life is amazing at 1,500ng/dl"

loll all jokes aside, you should focus on the ROOT of the problem. a recurring word that i keep seeing in this thread is "girls" and .
Did someone say girls? "In this country you got to get the muscles first, then when you get the muscles you get juice, the when you get the juice, you get the women...."
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assuming your e2 is in check, you feel good. horny, energetic, etc etc.

how do you want us to answer? "omg dude! you feel amazing! you feel like god you feel like rambo you're a ripped sex machine every girl is just falling to her knees for you!! and you have to fight the girls off with a stick.. shit.. life is amazing at 1,500ng/dl"

loll all jokes aside, you should focus on the ROOT of the problem. a recurring word that i keep seeing in this thread is "girls" and "confidence" and you seem to be DIRECTLY relating that to high testosteorne levels. yes they are connected in some way, but if you do not address the root of the problem you will never improve even if your test levels are 10,000ng/dl. believe that.

Not to confuse La la al with the OP :) but they do both have very similar issues. Only difference is, lalala actually has low-ish T.

Also I keep seeing these two referring to 1500ng/dl like a magic number. Just wanted to point out that level is not sustainable long term and not healthy. 900 - 1200ng/dl MAX for your younger years then <1000ng/dl thereafter IMO.

Lalala, you would actually see some improvement sgoing on TRT. You won't magically become more confident though, nor will girls start falling on you. That may come later if you get your head straight. T is an important hormone but it's no magic pill that everyone seems to think it is.
 
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