using your opinion, define steroid abuse

This is not an easy one to tackle but for me it would entail

Higher dosages than the minimum required to gain

Prolonged on time without enough off time ( does not apply to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) ppl)

Using compounds that are toxic and nasty but still using them anyway
 
What Zeek said specially not enough off time and always staying on it and just being dumb and keep using more than you need to.
 
Dude have you seen some of the doses bb's use during cycles ? It's well in the grams of multiple compounds. I'm not calling them psycho's in a bad term, just because they have the balls to run those high doses. It's an addiction to being perfect but I rather be perfect by doing this than being addicted to plastic surgery and other things
 
Theres probably more NON PRO's taking these Idiot doses than pro's

Its quick and easy to condem the pro's for rediculious dosages yes some have done and do do them! But many don't. They actually know how to utilize them best.

As well one has to keep in mind most Pro's are just that! This is there job they have nothing more in life to do. Train, eat, sleep let that sink in then ask your self what could you do, where could u be! Given this oprotunity?
 
As well one has to keep in mind most Pro's are just that! This is there job they have nothing more in life to do. Train, eat, sleep let that sink in then ask your self what could you do, where could u be! Given this oprotunity?

Wish I had the chance! haaha
 
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Theres probably more NON PRO's taking these Idiot doses than pro's

Its quick and easy to condem the pro's for rediculious dosages yes some have done and do do them! But many don't. They actually know how to utilize them best.

As well one has to keep in mind most Pro's are just that! This is there job they have nothing more in life to do. Train, eat, sleep let that sink in then ask your self what could you do, where could u be! Given this oprotunity?

Very true....i think most pro's know what they are doing is dangerous and excessive, but they most likely long ago made the decision that they were willing to do what it took to reach that level. I don't think they are crazy for that. As a result, they make good money doing what they love.
 
Very true....i think most pro's know what they are doing is dangerous and excessive, but they most likely long ago made the decision that they were willing to do what it took to reach that level. I don't think they are crazy for that. As a result, they make good money doing what they love.

They actually have terrible salaries compared to most of the other sports. On top of it, they spend most there income on food and drugs. Of course very rarely, someone like cutler will get a sponsorship from a top popular brand supplement company. Look at Kai Greene. I saw a vid of him and his daily lifestyle and its far from comfortable. I'm not sure now, but back in 08 or 09 he spent so much money on food and drugs that he didn't even have a car or air conditioning. Not to mention the funds are decreasing which means they get payed little as possible. Not bashing any of the pros, but it's just the way it is I guess...
 
They actually have terrible salaries compared to most of the other sports. On top of it, they spend most there income on food and drugs. Of course very rarely, someone like cutler will get a sponsorship from a top popular brand supplement company. Look at Kai Greene. I saw a vid of him and his daily lifestyle and its far from comfortable. I'm not sure now, but back in 08 or 09 he spent so much money on food and drugs that he didn't even have a car or air conditioning. Not to mention the funds are decreasing which means they get payed little as possible. Not bashing any of the pros, but it's just the way it is I guess...

not only do very few of them make any money!

Look at what the poor women make! Rediculious
 
Steroid Abuse = The act of making it illegal to obtain, use, sell, or make anabolic and androgenic steroids.

Seriously, the FDA, DEA, and Surgeon General all recommended against outlawing steroids, fucking bullshit if you ask me. But nooooooo, our government knows whats best for us after all. Just send me to a fucking Gulag already. Fuck that shit. Later comrades.

LMFAO yeah I feel ya! I so appriciate being told whats good for me!
 
I have tremendous respect for guys and gals that compete. Sure there are guys that use dosages in the grams which we don't fully know the ramifications of, but I think the definition of steroid abuse only comes into play when it affects the user's life and those around him or her in a negative manner. If someone neglects blood work, runs multiple orals, or doesn't research the chemicals they're putting into their bodies, I define that as abuse.
 
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