What Does Your Long Cycle Look Like

I'm running it right now actually.... at about week 8 or so I believe.. Everything is subject to change in my cycles depending on how I feel.... If my gains slow later in the last half of the cyclke I'll up the doses or throw in some dbol..... good luck bro...
 
gymphreak, that is one hell of a cycle brother!

You must have put a lot of thought into that one.

I'm not an expert with all that cutting stuff, as I have a naturally low bf% and with a little diet I can get down to where I need to be.

The bulking looks good from what I see right now...I'm gonna sit down and look at it more closely.

Thanks for all the info brothers...keep it coming

I'm gettin a lot out of this and I hope there are others out there that are benefitting from this as well

Peace,
Taurus
 
GymPhreak - why you using so much (upwards of 2850 mg the first few weeks) - how much you currently weighing.

Seems a little strange with such a low dose for the cutting cycle.

And just a word of wisdon from someone that has been there. More isn't necesarly better.
 
Im currently sittin at 272lbs at 15% bodyfat. 6'2 as well..

The reason for me using a low dose of test for my cutting cycle, is because test works well for me at a low dose while cutting. Also, since im running clen and DNP at the end along with Winstrol (winny), i wanted to get the test into my system and make gains while im dieting down before i go all out on a bulker.

to sum it up, im using test at a low dose to keep my intensity and drive in the gym while dieting....so i dont hinder myself and feel like crap...
 
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Damn, sorry Taurus, almost hijacked your thread without answering your question.

Phase 1

Week 1-29 Test Cyp 800mg/week
Week 1-15 EQ 800mg/week
Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg/d
Week 6-15 Tren A 200mg EOD
Week 16-23 Winstrol 100mg EOD
Week 24-30 Tren A 200mg EOD
Weeks 9-30 HCG 500iu week
Week 1-23 T3 12.5mcg/d (protein synthesis)
Week 24-29 T3 up to 100mcg (fat burn)

Bridge

Week 30-33 Test Cyp 300mg/week
Week 30 Clomid 100mg/d
Week 31-33 Clomid 50mg/d

Phase 2 is undecided as of yet depending on blood work results and at what stage I am at that point. Things I may try are Tren E, Deca (prolly not), or go back to the EQ. Or I may just come off for a few months and then do a short-ester 10 weeker to cut up for summer.
 
RJH8541 thanks for the reply bro

That cycle looks solid. Very similar to the one I am planning on running.

Couple of questions though

I notice you go from Tren A to Winstrol back to Tren A again. Is there any reason for that?

I also see that you have HCG in there from wks 9-30 I have been advised to do this as well, but everyone that tells me that I need to incorporate it tells me to start it at a different time.

Why wks 9-30?

Thanks bro,
Taurus
 
Taurus50 said:
RJH8541 thanks for the reply bro

That cycle looks solid. Very similar to the one I am planning on running.

Couple of questions though

I notice you go from Tren A to Winstrol back to Tren A again. Is there any reason for that?

I also see that you have HCG in there from wks 9-30 I have been advised to do this as well, but everyone that tells me that I need to incorporate it tells me to start it at a different time.

Why wks 9-30?

Thanks bro,
Taurus

Both great questions. And easy to answer. lol

1. I have never tried Winstrol or Tren until this cycle. Since it is a long cycle, I wanted to be sure to switch up the compunds in case gains started to stagnate. I wanted to try both to see how my body responded to each seperately, which is why the break is there. I am loving the Tren now, but it does have its sides. And I always have test as a base so I will be able to tell what each compound does or doesn't do for me. Since this cycle, and every following cycle is going to be to maximize lean gains while limiting BF%, I wanted to try a few drugs that are designed or at least better for this type of cycle. I am only increasing my cals once the BF comes off and I know that the weight I have will be more solid.

2. The only reason I waited until week 7 for the HCG (above was a screwup) was becuase I was thinking about just doing it at the end like alot of people do. But after talking to some of the older guys who do long cycles, they suggested that since it is so cheap, and it does help you recover faster IMO, I should just do it all the way through. So, I started a week or so ago and I already feel better. HCG helps get rid of that edgy feeling you get at around the 8-10 week mark. At least it does for me.

Overall this cycle has helped me learn alot of things about AAS. I started around 230 and at 15% BF. Right now I am sitting at about 235lbs and I would guess I have a lost a % or 2. I am getting leaner, and I do very little cardio. Cals are at about 3300/d with a 450pro/175 carbs ratio. On WO days the carbs are higher due to added carbs after working out, but you get the idea. Once I get to around 9%, I'm hoping I will be around this same weight, which will equate to around 15lbs of lean mass. Another reason for the long cycle. A little bit of lean meat at a slower rate is easier for me to deal with than packing on 30lbs and having to lose 20 of it at the end. My body was not made to bulk I guess!lol

Damn that was a long post.
 
Nice post RJH...thanks bro

For you bros with experience...How often do you think a compound should be changed up?

For example how long can I run Deca before I need to change it to Tren or something else...of course test is going to be the base throughout the cycle

Thanks,
T
 
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