What I want to make myself..

[tnarmyng]

This is some stuff I get from a friend, who gets from someone.. You know how that works, everything a secret. This is my 3rd cycle of this stuff and it works pretty good, I do 1 cc 2x a week, my friend recommended when I first started, and they last 5 weeks total, so 5 on 5 off. I want to homebrew some and I can get the powder, from the friend of my friend, and I found a recipe online but which oil is the best, and is the oil you would use illegal to buy? I dont know if you can make it out in the picture, but its from "advanced pharma"?

the test says .02 benzyl alcohol .10 benzyl benzoate 2 g test cypionate

and the deca says .02 benzyl alcohol .10 benzyl benzoate 2 g nandrolone deca

BTW if you can tell me anything about the strength of the stuff I've been using and dosage I'm doing, or any other recommendations I'd appreciate it.

 

[Zeek]

5 on/ 5 off for test cyp and nan deca is rediculous. as silly as it is I bet you still managed to make gains didn't you?

Do you know anything about PCT?

How long have you been doing this yo-yo game?

I'm not flaming you, in the end we are going to get you straight but geez man! what a mess

 

[Zeek]

Don't even think of touching any powder a guy like this can obtain for you bro!

The vials you have there scream of low quality bathroom UGL. Look at the stopper on that one vial and the labels are horrible

You have been doing 400 test per week and 400 deca btw.

 

[tnarmyng]

5 on/ 5 off for test cyp and nan deca is rediculous. as silly as it is I bet you still managed to make gains didn't you?

Do you know anything about PCT?

How long have you been doing this yo-yo game?

I'm not flaming you, in the end we are going to get you straight but geez man! what a mess

Yea I ended up gaining about 16 pounds overall and I got taped at the gym with the computer calipers and read 9% bf. I've done 3 cycles but they've been over about 10 months. I've done a cycle and went clean for a few months each time. The 5 wk on 5 wk off was advice from the friend I got it from. I didn't know any better at the time, and to be honest if you hadn't said that I would have probably done the same thing again.

And yea I've heard of PCT, post-cycle, and I've seen a few things at GNC, but never had any advice on it or tried anything after the cycle.

 

[tnarmyng]

Don't even think of touching any powder a guy like this can obtain for you bro!

The vials you have there scream of low quality bathroom UGL. Look at the stopper on that one vial and the labels are horrible

You have been doing 400 test per week and 400 deca btw.

Well the guy I've been getting it from is the only guy I know that I can get anything from. I asked him today if his guy can get powder, he said yes. I figured I could brew it myself and be sure of what I'm getting. And yea I know it's not the best quality but it's at least filtered good cause it's as clear as it gets, from what I know, which isn't much lol. I guess I need to learn more about what I need, and try to holler at some guys at the gym for a new source.

I've never used HGH but I've heard of it from a few people. What do you think about it zeek? I'm a pretty small guy, not just tone, but small overall. I'm 5'11 155 and I'm wanting to get to 170. I heard HGH is more of a permanent overall body hormone to make everything grow, not just muscles. What kind of cycle would I do?

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

You need to read about PCT over in the other forum. Also 5 weeks is just about the time test cyp is going to kick in hard thats not when you wanna get off try 12-16 week cycles with test. There are plenty of reputable board sponsors to get good gear from. I agree Im not so sure I'd wanna brew my own shit with some junk from someone you dont know.

 

[Zeek]

Well the guy I've been getting it from is the only guy I know that I can get anything from. I asked him today if his guy can get powder, he said yes. I figured I could brew it myself and be sure of what I'm getting. And yea I know it's not the best quality but it's at least filtered good cause it's as clear as it gets, from what I know, which isn't much lol. I guess I need to learn more about what I need, and try to holler at some guys at the gym for a new source.

I've never used HGH but I've heard of it from a few people. What do you think about it zeek? I'm a pretty small guy, not just tone, but small overall. I'm 5'11 155 and I'm wanting to get to 170. I heard HGH is more of a permanent overall body hormone to make everything grow, not just muscles. What kind of cycle would I do?

If you are serious about doing things the right way, I'll come back to this thread in 15 min or so. I need to make some work related phone calls. The other guys will probably have you all set and gtg by then though

Trust me on this. Do not buy powders from a guy who provided you these vials you are showing here as a finished product. His connections obviously suck and they get worse when they go to powder from finished goods. Who knows what that guys stuff is stepped on with. At least those vials came sealed.

We will get you squarred away bro, don't get upset if someone flames you. Put your thick skin on and within 30 min you will be on track

 

[tnarmyng]

You need to read about post cycle therapy (pct) over in the other forum. Also 5 weeks is just about the time test cyp is going to kick in hard thats not when you wanna get off try 12-16 week cycles with test. There are plenty of reputable board sponsors to get good gear from. I agree Im not so sure I'd wanna brew my own shit with some junk from someone you dont know.

Im looking at the post cycle therapy (pct) forum right now. It looks like i need to take SERM for my post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after i finish my cycle. How do I find a good board sponsors? I'm new to gear, like i said I've only done 3 cycles, and I'm new to the board too. And yea I didn't realize how bad it looked until zeek said something about about the vial.

Tryintoget.. The only thing is that the guy isn't keen to meeting new people, so I've never met him, I have to go through my friend. You think I need to meet the guy I get it through directly?

 

[Zeek]

Lets look at the entire picture so we can plan something for you that will really help you now and in the long run.

- You are 5 ft 11 and 155 lbs

You are 3 of these cycles in so far in 10 months.

are you currently on a cycle right now? i so how deep?

When was your last cycle over with?

Getting the post cycle therapy (pct) goodies is no big deal, our site sponsors can have them to your door within a couple of days. We will get to that after you answer the above questions so we can plan an attack

 

[Zeek]

here is my honest advice to you. let me know what you think and if you plan to accept it great. If you want to go another route I will still try to help you een if I don't really agree with it. Main thing is getting you right.

At 5 ft 11 and 155 lbs, you have absolutely no base to hold on to any steroid gains. Anything you gain is going to be lost because you simply do not know what to eat and how to eat.

I don't care how much steroids you inject, if you want to be a 200lb solid guy you have to eat like one. Eat like a 150 lb man and you will always shrink back down to one.

Do not buy anymore gear, powders or anything for now. Plan to be ready to juice again in early spring. Contact 3J, here is a link to his thread.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/diet-forum/602974-3js-nutrition-network.html

Get in on some kind of plan that you can best afford and do everything he tells you to do over the next few months. I'm sure you will hit 170lbs without any steroids or more. After a while you will know how to eat, what to eat and how to train.

In a couple of months on here you will have made plenty of friends. We will know you and know you are a serious guy. You won't have to worry about mickey mouse sources and that is all I am going to say on that but you follow me.

Do it the right way and go far! or kep playing the silly game your buddy has you doing and be in the same boat come summer. It's up to you.

I don't work for 3J, get nothing from telling you to use him. All you have to do is look at some of the recent pics of the guys he has helped. a pic is worth 10,000 words.

Lets get to the business of your post cycle therapy (pct) and getting your normal levels up asap

 

[mbig245]

This is some stuff I get from a friend, who gets from someone.. You know how that works, everything a secret. This is my 3rd cycle of this stuff and it works pretty good, I do 1 cc 2x a week, my friend recommended when I first started, and they last 5 weeks total, so 5 on 5 off. I want to homebrew some and I can get the powder, from the friend of my friend, and I found a recipe online but which oil is the best, and is the oil you would use illegal to buy? I dont know if you can make it out in the picture, but its from "advanced pharma"?

the test says .02 benzyl alcohol .10 benzyl benzoate 2 g test cypionate

and the deca says .02 benzyl alcohol .10 benzyl benzoate 2 g nandrolone deca

BTW if you can tell me anything about the strength of the stuff I've been using and dosage I'm doing, or any other recommendations I'd appreciate it.

Yea that's homebrew at its finest! Looks nasty...

 

[tnarmyng]

Lets look at the entire picture so we can plan something for you that will really help you now and in the long run.

- You are 5 ft 11 and 155 lbs

You are 3 of these cycles in so far in 10 months.

are you currently on a cycle right now? i so how deep?

When was your last cycle over with?

Getting the post cycle therapy (pct) goodies is no big deal, our site sponsors can have them to your door within a couple of days. We will get to that after you answer the above questions so we can plan an attack

Yea I'm on the 4th week of the 3rd cycle. The last cycle I finished was about 2 months ago. Thanks for the help.

 

[tnarmyng]

here is my honest advice to you. let me know what you think and if you plan to accept it great. If you want to go another route I will still try to help you een if I don't really agree with it. Main thing is getting you right.

At 5 ft 11 and 155 lbs, you have absolutely no base to hold on to any steroid gains. Anything you gain is going to be lost because you simply do not know what to eat and how to eat.

I don't care how much steroids you inject, if you want to be a 200lb solid guy you have to eat like one. Eat like a 150 lb man and you will always shrink back down to one.

Do not buy anymore gear, powders or anything for now. Plan to be ready to juice again in early spring. Contact 3J, here is a link to his thread.

steroidology.com/forum/diet-forum/602974-3js-nutrition-network.html

Get in on some kind of plan that you can best afford and do everything he tells you to do over the next few months. I'm sure you will hit 170lbs without any steroids or more. After a while you will know how to eat, what to eat and how to train.

In a couple of months on here you will have made plenty of friends. We will know you and know you are a serious guy. You won't have to worry about mickey mouse sources and that is all I am going to say on that but you follow me.

Do it the right way and go far! or kep playing the silly game your buddy has you doing and be in the same boat come summer. It's up to you.

I don't work for 3J, get nothing from telling you to use him. All you have to do is look at some of the recent pics of the guys he has helped. a pic is worth 10,000 words.

Lets get to the business of your PCT and getting your normal levels up asap

Yea I know what you mean about being new here. Time is the only cure for that. I'm going to look at the plans and go with that, it sounds like a good route. i know youre right about losing it cause thats what happens every time. The PCT thread you showed me said to use SERM if I read it right..

 

[Zeek]

Yea I'm on the 4th week of the 3rd cycle. The last cycle I finished was about 2 months ago. Thanks for the help.

Lets go ahead and finish up what you have on hand since you are already 4 weeks in. You are shut down. Get in touch with 3J in the time being and get that ball rolling. We might be able to save some gains from this current run that way

Yea I know what you mean about being new here. Time is the only cure for that. I'm going to look at the plans and go with that, it sounds like a good route. i know youre right about losing it cause thats what happens every time. The PCT thread you showed me said to use SERM if I read it right..

Do this, go to our research sponsor of your choice.

You will need to order clomiphene ( clomid) and Tamoxofen ( nolvadex) it comes in liquid form and is dosed at so many mgs per ml, depending on the sponsor.

You want to buy enough that you have

30 days of clomid at 50mg

30 days of nolvadex at 40 mg for 15 days and 20mg for 15 more days.

get that today so it gets to you and you at least have some protection if the nipples start to itch or gyno tries to set in. Nolvadex and clomid will block estrogen at the breast receptor site. Look it up before you bash me on this guys we used this for years before the fancy anti E's came out.

I would use GWP or osta-gain.com we have two others also to choose from.

 

[tnarmyng]

I already wrote 3J, he's sending me an invoice, and I will get the diet/workout plan wednesday. I just ordered the clomid and nolvadex from greatwhitepeptides. I told 3J I wanted to get to 175 before I started my next cycle, he said the 5 week plan should be more than enough, so hopefully in 5 weeks I'll be there!

 

[Zeek]

I already wrote 3J, he's sending me an invoice, and I will get the diet/workout plan wednesday. I just ordered the clomid and nolvadex from greatwhitepeptides. I told 3J I wanted to get to 175 before I started my next cycle, he said the 5 week plan should be more than enough, so hopefully in 5 weeks I'll be there!

I'm proud of you for not taking the easy but incorrect route!

What do you have on hand right now..how much test and how much deca? trying to plan the end to what you have and then work in PCT

 

[tnarmyng]

I'm proud of you for not taking the easy but incorrect route!

What do you have on hand right now..how much test and how much deca? trying to plan the end to what you have and then work in PCT

I've got almost exactly 2.5 cc's of each

 

[dfeaton]

here is my honest advice to you. let me know what you think and if you plan to accept it great. If you want to go another route I will still try to help you een if I don't really agree with it. Main thing is getting you right.

At 5 ft 11 and 155 lbs, you have absolutely no base to hold on to any steroid gains. Anything you gain is going to be lost because you simply do not know what to eat and how to eat.

I don't care how much steroids you inject, if you want to be a 200lb solid guy you have to eat like one. Eat like a 150 lb man and you will always shrink back down to one.

Do not buy anymore gear, powders or anything for now. Plan to be ready to juice again in early spring. Contact 3J, here is a link to his thread.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/diet-forum/602974-3js-nutrition-network.html

Get in on some kind of plan that you can best afford and do everything he tells you to do over the next few months. I'm sure you will hit 170lbs without any steroids or more. After a while you will know how to eat, what to eat and how to train.

In a couple of months on here you will have made plenty of friends. We will know you and know you are a serious guy. You won't have to worry about mickey mouse sources and that is all I am going to say on that but you follow me.

Do it the right way and go far! or kep playing the silly game your buddy has you doing and be in the same boat come summer. It's up to you.

I don't work for 3J, get nothing from telling you to use him. All you have to do is look at some of the recent pics of the guys he has helped. a pic is worth 10,000 words.

Lets get to the business of your PCT and getting your normal levels up asap

Zeek you are a good man

 

[Zeek]

Zeek you are a good man

I just like to see these guys get things right so they are happy. I had my very own old geezer teach me about diet, training, AAS and post cycle therapy (pct) and most important time off from steroids.

I've got almost exactly 2.5 cc's of each

ok with that toss the deca and follow your protocol that you have been doing on the test C. s wait 3 weeks after your last injection. Do some recommend 2 weeks on the test C? I've always done 3 on it but know guys who go 2. I tell you to toss the deca a week early to give you more time for it to clear before post cycle therapy (pct).. I alwasy run the test at least 1 week longer than the deca

Anyway 2-3 weeks after your last test C shot start your post cycle therapy (pct)

Clomid 50mg per day for 4 weeks

Nolvadex 40mg ed for 2 weeks followed by 20mg ed for the last two weeks.

TJ will advise you on post cycle therapy (pct) diet and all that stuff. Once you get to 50 posts feel free to PM any questions or before then feel free to start up a thread. No question is a stupid question.

 

[tnarmyng]

Zeek you are a good man

Yea that's a lot more help than what i expected to get, especially since I'm new.