What physique is attainable with just testosterone cycles?

Do you think that the GH is responsible for the size seen today or is it the slin or a combo of both. I think that igf-1 is causing a lot of the size differences seen today. The combo of all of those things is making a huge difference, but would running an amount like 12iu of pharma gh yield size on its own or would you also need it to work in synergy with slin to get size? I study a lot about AAS but I do not know much about the muscle building properties of GH on its own. I know what it does for recovery, skin, hair, and fat loss, but not a lot of people take high enough doses of real gh to report muscle gain.

i never lifted weights.. ever, until i found this place. just boxed.


letting you guys in on something here - my father was a body builder in the 80's and 90's..

so the old man had all the magazines and lit ( pre internet, kids)

when i thought about lifting, i started looking up the sport on the www in the last couple years..

the one thing that has really turned me off from body building- are the fucking body builders of today.


its pretty obvious to me that insulin and GH are the two things that ushered in the era of the size freaks and killed the classic body builder form..

these guys look ilke they're carrying babies, they look pregnant as all hell

the side effects don't stop there - this "palumboism" is a real fucking treat f0r everyone to look at - and a lot of those guys will continue to climb on stage with these strange looking orc / troll bodies that look like something of a different species than even human..


arnold himself called out the sport - that body building has lost its way



to be honest.. id rather look like i do right now, than to ever be rocking anything like that fucking GH gut
 
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I dont use gh and slin but when people see my stomach i just say "you know bro its gh gut" its a great excuse and people expect it
 
I don't know what causes the gut. The funny thing is some guys don't have it. Dexter Jackson is in his mid 40's won an olympia and has no gh gut. I don't like the physiques that we are seeing today, but it is not the fault of the competitors it is the judges. I like the look of guys like Oliva, Arnold, Zane, Draper and all those other guys but at the same time I respect the guys doing their thing today. The judging should change, but it won't and the guts are here to stay. I think it has to do with the excessive amount of crap some of those guys are eating. Ronnie Coleman eats like a fucking pig in the offseason. I saw a video of him downing ribs doused in BBQ sauce and like 3 corn on the cobs loaded with butter and shit. I don't think anyone has a good explanation as to why it is happening but the issue exists and it will be here to stay unless the ifbb changes something.
 
No bro its intestinal growth from insulin in combination with 30 iu of hgh these monsters use. They diet down pretty hard i assume weeks before show to get to super low bf im sure the stomach would shrink down in that period while they are eating clean. Were all brainwashed to think they eat clean and blow up to enormous sizes they all eat everything when they bulk but thats another subject. ....how do i know this? i used to be a pro! Then i woke up
 
Diet diet diet, if you stay on a strict fast food diet all the process meat and bread will make you beyond swollen. Like a beast.
 
There is nothing like a chilli cheese fries and double cheeseburger after a ten minute work out. But throw some test in there, maybe 1,000 mg a week and bamb Dorian Yates statis. But seriously steroids only give you what you work for diet and training will give you results based on those two things and genetic.so it's what you eat and how you train and if you got shot out genetics then you are screwed.
 
Sorry my friend pharm grade hgh are genetics in a bottle you dont grow huge eating dry chicken breast and broccoli. With hgh and tren you can eat whatever the fuck you want obviously the fast food is a joke but all other food is fair game in the growing process. Obviously my stomach shows i dont eat clean but i used moderate tren compared to pros. I built my muscle never counting macros weighing stuff. I will say this clean eating is crucial absolute must to diet down very very lean thats a fact.
 
Im obviously being a parrot right now but im on a forum with top level amateur and they alway talk about how much they have to eat while in hgh it literally burns everything up quick. Theses guys eat chinese food indian sushi jamaican african you name it lol
 
Oh I thought he was saying test only, I never touched hgh to expensive for me. If I was a baller I would be all over it.
 
Shit ill look like a fat no muscle sack of sausages on test only with my loose diet. Ya i went off topic i forgot what caused it lol
 
I want a form of tren invented with no insomnia, heartburn or sweating. Yup, i think i just derailed this thread.
 
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