What physique is attainable with just testosterone cycles?

[halfwit]

Do you think that the GH is responsible for the size seen today or is it the slin or a combo of both. I think that igf-1 is causing a lot of the size differences seen today. The combo of all of those things is making a huge difference, but would running an amount like 12iu of pharma gh yield size on its own or would you also need it to work in synergy with slin to get size? I study a lot about AAS but I do not know much about the muscle building properties of GH on its own. I know what it does for recovery, skin, hair, and fat loss, but not a lot of people take high enough doses of real gh to report muscle gain.

That's a tough one to answer. I know that there's a synergy, as HGH promotes the growth of NEW cells, while insulin shuttles nutrients into them. While insulin has been around for quite some time, I am of the belief that it's the combination of the two (with AAS) that really creates the "freak" look.

Abdominal distention isn't always caused by hormones either; when you force feed yourself a tremendous amount of food, your stomach will stretch to accommodate this. It's why morbidly obese folks (the overeating kind) tend to have an odd shaped abdomen, much like our bb'ing folks mentioned above.

I'm sure Zilla would have a better response as I'm on my phone and don't have links to any studies on it in this area.

 

[49ER]

I think they eat alot of turtles with the shell to be honest

 

[tury694]

That's a tough one to answer. I know that there's a synergy, as HGH promotes the growth of NEW cells, while insulin shuttles nutrients into them. While insulin has been around for quite some time, I am of the belief that it's the combination of the two (with AAS) that really creates the "freak" look.

Abdominal distention isn't always caused by hormones either; when you force feed yourself a tremendous amount of food, your stomach will stretch to accommodate this. It's why morbidly obese folks (the overeating kind) tend to have an odd shaped abdomen, much like our bb'ing folks mentioned above.

I'm sure Zilla would have a better response as I'm on my phone and don't have links to any studies on it in this area.

I think the overeating is the possible culprit also. I wish I could hear Ripped's take on it. Lots of carbs consumed when running slin I hear. Do you have any of that distention going on, since you run big boy cycles?

 

[halfwit]

I think they eat alot of turtles with the shell to be honest

OM NOM NOM NOM NOM!

I think the overeating is the possible culprit also. I wish I could hear Ripped's take on it. Lots of carbs consumed when running slin I hear. Do you have any of that distention going on, since you run big boy cycles?

Not like the pros, no. I do have some distention from being obese years ago, which is taking its sweet time shrinking down along with loose skin on my lower abs.

 

[jolter604]

Turtle ceviche .

 

[49ER]

Being from the coast i use to eat alot of baby whale thats what caused my distended love handles

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Do you think that the GH is responsible for the size seen today or is it the slin or a combo of both. I think that igf-1 is causing a lot of the size differences seen today. The combo of all of those things is making a huge difference, but would running an amount like 12iu of pharma gh yield size on its own or would you also need it to work in synergy with slin to get size? I study a lot about AAS but I do not know much about the muscle building properties of GH on its own. I know what it does for recovery, skin, hair, and fat loss, but not a lot of people take high enough doses of real gh to report muscle gain.

The size seen today is due to a combination of high dose GH, insulin and AAS as Half said.

In terms of running GH alone for mass, the only relevant study that comes to mind is this:

The effects of growth hormone on body composition and physical performance in recreational athletes: a randomized trial. - PubMed - NCBI

A few interesting points from the study:

- GH use was 2mg/day (or 6ius/day) and for 8 weeks only, so the assumption would be that longer term use would yield better results.
- With GH only, LBM gains occurred due to an increase in extracellular water rather than actual muscle tissue or cell growth.
- GH + test (250mg weekly) on the other hand resulted in an increase in body cell mass (BCM). Considering 60% of BCM is lean muscle tissue, I think its a safe to say that this means actual muscle growth.

IMO GH only wont do much for muscle growth on its own but GH + insulin or GH + steroids or GH + insulin + steroids will do quite a bit

 

[Charles Bronson]

id pick serg or zane over any of the freaks I've seen on stage

greek statue, athlete, god

these fucking guys now, they're cartoony.

 

[tury694]

id pick serg or zane over any of the freaks I've seen on stage

greek statue, athlete, god

these fucking guys now, they're cartoony.

I still respect the guys now but it is not a physique i would want.

 

[49ER]

This is the look im chasing gonna take me a while but ill get thereView attachment 561924

 

[Charles Bronson]

This is the look im chasing gonna take me a while but ill get thereView attachment 561924

ill send you a case of quaker state

 

[Charles Bronson]

i wanna arm wrestle one of those fukcing guys

punch them arms , one good whack and see if it leaves a big fucking dent

 

[SoCalSwole]

Dude if your 5'11" and 213 at 9%BF then what the fuck are you worried about? Most guys taking everything available will not have those stats. If they are accurate

The nature of your question screams newbie and the response to what your stats are do as well.

 

[tury694]

This is the look im chasing gonna take me a while but ill get thereView attachment 561924

Looks like a tan cloud

 

[Fred87]

Dude if your 5'11" and 213 at 9%BF then what the fuck are you worried about? Most guys taking everything available will not have those stats. If they are accurate

The nature of your question screams newbie and the response to what your stats are do as well.

Not sure if you are talking to me, but those stats are from another guy ahah and yes Im ofc a newbie, I have no idea what different aas would give you in terms of appearance, thats why Im asking
Im not worried in any way

 

[Fred87]

Mass wise yes but test alone will never give you this look he has parabolon and bunch of other stuff written all over himView attachment 561921

This is pretty much what my question is about.
What on his body, for example, could never be achieved with just testosterone?

 

[DinoTexas]

That guy is a walking lab experiment

 

[Onk]

Not sure if you are talking to me, but those stats are from another guy ahah and yes Im ofc a newbie, I have no idea what different aas would give you in terms of appearance, thats why Im asking
Im not worried in any way

Stats aren't too weird. I'm 6'1, 218 and at 10%

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

Great thread

 

[LateStart]

Well indeed the dosage has its impact, but why do people throw in more compounds then?

People add compounds to minimize sides. Some compounds are more estrogenic......some less. The idea is to add compounds to make you more anabolic or to show your body something different, shock the body into responding.
I'm curious on this topic. My gut tells me that if you respond well ,then test is all you would ever need. If you do not respond well then nothing will likely help so may as well stick with the test. Only time will tell for me.
Edit: damnit.....just realized this is old as hell