What's the basis on running Tren higher than Test?

[cashout]

Masteron, really? How much we talking. Fuk we got eq on hand and I'm sitting on 300 10mg gp winni tabs but you guys make me want to throw that shit in the trash. Cobra is really wishing we had this info before we ran our last 2 cycles. lol

Keep the Winstrol (winny) tabs handy for your next heavy test cycle.

Run it very low dose (10 mg daily) for the cycle to knock out the SHBG in the blood. Winstrol (winny) is particularly well suited for that. At 10 mgs daily, you are looking a about a 40% reduction in SHBG - that will help preserve some test in the blood.

 

[UserAt204]

Cashout we always appreciate when you chime in. Good to see you around and great info as always my friend. I knew there had to be a use for Winstrol (winny). Lol.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Keep the Winstrol (winny) tabs handy for your next heavy test cycle.

Run it very low dose (10 mg daily) for the cycle to knock out the SHBG in the blood. Winstrol (winny) is particularly well suited for that. At 10 mgs daily, you are looking a about a 40% reduction in SHBG - that will help preserve some test in the blood.

great info here cashout!!! Always surprising me with your vast wealth of knowledge

 

[Stick & Move]

Thanks Cashout, Cashout the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[djm6464]

im bumping this, cause the info is beyond important

same boat as a few, some tren enth on the way, to add to my test/mast which is already 4wks in

i pussied on the tren earlier, but talking to a few guys, and reading this, ill nut up

other guys have exp with tren too, and same deal, less test more tren gave better results (one is a med so he monitored it like crazy too)....other was 350test, 750 tren and still was doing fine

goes along with everything form oak, who deserves royalties for some of his posts and the views they must garner

im gonna slowly taper back the test, and add the tren for cutting purposes at 400mg, even with the mast (which i love, and have never needed an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with this stuff)

thanks to cashout, oak , and everyone for all the killer info

 

[Cobra Strike]

im bumping this, cause the info is beyond important

same boat as a few, some tren enth on the way, to add to my test/mast which is already 4wks in

i pussied on the tren earlier, but talking to a few guys, and reading this, ill nut up

other guys have exp with tren too, and same deal, less test more tren gave better results (one is a med so he monitored it like crazy too)....other was 350test, 750 tren and still was doing fine

goes along with everything form oak, who deserves royalties for some of his posts and the views they must garner

im gonna slowly taper back the test, and add the tren for cutting purposes at 400mg, even with the mast (which i love, and have never needed an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with this stuff)

thanks to cashout, oak , and everyone for all the killer info

this is very valuable info....I do feel that it is overlooked by most.

750 tren??? wtf does a guy need that much for?

 

[djm6464]

this is very valuable info....I do feel that it is overlooked by most.

750 tren??? wtf does a guy need that much for?

bolded that statement, sometimes less is more in alot of cases, n like oak said, its the synergy that trumps crazy doses

no fkn clue man, e-buddy, i started late, so even half that tren total would be enough in my case

i know mood was his biggest issue, snap at anything n everything.....dont remember if it was the entire 10wk run, or the ace and enth overlap......was one of those 'try everything n see what i like cycles'

in the end, after tren, eq, dbol, test variations.......even he said test/tren and nothing else

 

[crios660]

Good thread right here!!!

 

[sroids0166]

This is my first time hearing about more tren and less test.

For bulking, would you guys recommend a cycle of 500/wk test 400/wk deca or 700/wk tren and 300/wl test. And does it matter if thr test tren cycle is with enanthates or acetates?

 

[djm6464]

Good thread right here!!!

Good avi right there!!!

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

This is my first time hearing about more tren and less test.

For bulking, would you guys recommend a cycle of 500/wk test 400/wk deca or 700/wk tren and 300/wl test. And does it matter if thr test tren cycle is with enanthates or acetates?

please, i think people are taking my post's the wrong way, YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL RUNNING TREN THAT HIGH. it is for experienced user's ONLY.

 

[UserAt204]

Yes this needs a disclaimer. This is for experienced guys. What oak is getting at is maximizing gains and trying to minamize sides once you have ran many cycles and normally would be high dosing each. Also at this point you should know how you respond to each of the doses, where your test needs to be to keep libido strong etc etc. Good job oak, lots of good info homie.

 

[mr.spoon]

im about to start this test and tren thing, and this thread makes a lot of sense thanks fellas.

1 question tho is sus, dbol and tren a good cycle for bulking? i like sus but i feel it does nothing to me at 500mg a week so i been taking it 300mg every 3days it works for me this is 3cycle.

 

[mr.spoon]

uppppppppppppppp

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

im about to start this test and tren thing, and this thread makes a lot of sense thanks fellas.

1 question tho is sus, dbol and tren a good cycle for bulking? i like sus but i feel it does nothing to me at 500mg a week so i been taking it 300mg every 3days it works for me this is 3cycle.

well if your gonna run a hefty amount of tren, then you wont need the Sustanon (sust) to make gains. it will be basically to just keep things moving.

the tren will do all the building you will need, at the right dose.

what doses of tren have your ran before?

 

[mr.spoon]

well if your gonna run a hefty amount of tren, then you wont need the Sustanon (sust) to make gains. it will be basically to just keep things moving.

the tren will do all the building you will need, at the right dose.

what doses of tren have your ran before?

i never had tren i have some coming my way tho, only thing i ever had was test no pills or post cycle therapy (pct) ever thats about it i need help lol,

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if its prop ace i would just do 100mg of each EOD for first run

 

[mr.spoon]

if its prop ace i would just do 100mg of each EOD for first run

is tren e 200mg, 2 a week? and test? thanks

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

id do 2 or 2.5 a week. 500 enanthate is about the same as ace 100mg EOD.

some guys swear they only need a little bit of tren for it to work, just gotta see how you respond. thats why i would do ace first if possible. then when you know the dose you like you can run E

 

[mr.spoon]

id do 2 or 2.5 a week. 500 enanthate is about the same as ace 100mg EOD.

some guys swear they only need a little bit of tren for it to work, just gotta see how you respond. thats why i would do ace first if possible. then when you know the dose you like you can run E

hmm ok i guess ill try half the ml firts pin then.