What's the basis on running Tren higher than Test?

[Cobra Strike]

Bro, I wasn't trying to yank your chain or call you out on that man, at first I though it was a typo in your post.

That sucks that you got the short end of the stick on that gear. I know how excited I use to get about my cycles and if I would have run one and not had it live up to expectations b/c some jack wagon pawned off bogus stuff to me, I would walk a mud hole in his....well you know.

Trust me, I'm hurtin' for you, man.

na its totally fine bro...it was my first cycle and I had no idea what to expect from it anyway so you cant really lose what you never had right?? Besides it taught me alot about this game and I can use my personal experience to help others try to avoid this situation.

S&M is my close buddy and we both did the same thing on the first one so I basically fucked him over at the same time cause it was my source but he still loves me!

and I dont really believe in retaliation...Id like to think there is such a thing as karma...not to mention I would put my future on the line for any physicalities (right word?? IDK)I might shed on another....easier to just walk away and not talk to them anymore

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Cobra, are you saying that with 800 mgs of Test a week you are ONLY getting 2000 ng/dl on a blood test?

I get that off of 200 mgs of Pharm Grade Test Cyp once a week on HRT!

Better get that test source checked if that is what you are saying.

At 800mgs a week of test, you should be some where in the range of 6000-8000 ng/dl.

didnt even catch that but agree 100%. the study/sticky shows 600mg a week at like 2800. thats a week after last inject. meaning day after inject it was roughly 6,000.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Last 2 Cylces Sustanon (sust) -800 / week and tren 500 / week.

if this is your third time running it why not go up to 600mg? you might be able to gain a little size and cut.

if it were ace i would say 350-400 but the long esters takes up more weight per mg.

I would run my test like 400 with LE. 300 with prop.

 

[Cobra Strike]

if this is your third time running it why not go up to 600mg? you might be able to gain a little size and cut.

if it were ace i would say 350-400 but the long esters takes up more weight per mg.

I would run my test like 400 with LE. 300 with prop.

he is running tren e and test e...so your saying 600mg/week tren and 400mg/week test?? He is trying to cut down on the bf% instead of bulk this next cycle so I suggested 400mg tren/week and 350mg/test...

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

he is running tren e and test e...so your saying 600mg/week tren and 400mg/week test?? He is trying to cut down on the bf% instead of bulk this next cycle so I suggested 400mg tren/week and 350mg/test...

That dosage is just fine, it will work too. Myself, since its long ester i would do 600mg to see if i could lose fat and gain size, remember tren is the only one you can gain size on restricted diet, its amazing.

of that 600mg 29% is ester. so your really only getting 420 tren.

at 500 ace you would get roughly the same.

its a lilttle high but not unreasonable.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Im running 130mg ace EOD right now, and wouldnt mnd upping to 150, my strength is really starting to come to me, and the thing is Im 20 lbs lighter than when i was this strong before.

 

[Cobra Strike]

That dosage is just fine, it will work too. Myself, since its long ester i would do 600mg to see if i could lose fat and gain size, remember tren is the only one you can gain size on restricted diet, its amazing.

of that 600mg 29% is ester. so your really only getting 420 tren.

at 500 ace you would get roughly the same.

its a lilttle high but not unreasonable.

dammit!!! Now I feel like I fucked up my last two tren cycles...ahaha and I thought I had this shit figured out.

so the enanthate ester is 29% of total dosage?? I never knew what the number was. Learn new shit all the time...thanks bro

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

dammit!!! Now I feel like I fucked up my last two tren cycles...ahaha and I thought I had this shit figured out.

so the enanthate ester is 29% of total dosage?? I never knew what the number was. Learn new shit all the time...thanks bro

yup ace would be like 12% prop 15% enan 29% cyp 31%.

 

[Cobra Strike]

yup ace would be like 12% prop 15% enan 29% cyp 31%.

what about deconate?

 

[UserAt204]

OAK is like a how to book on AAS plus has a good avi to look at.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

what about deconate?

cant remember for sure but like 37%. You can google it, all the info is out there.

I even found on watson's site that it said Test will increase LBM as long as adequate protein is taken in, luv it...................

 

[Cobra Strike]

watsons site?

 

[Stick & Move]

Sounds kick ass to me. Tren has been amazing hands down. Thanks Everyone

 

[Repo]

Gosh damn - User not only is DET a How-To Book - he's the Wikipedia of AAS - the Guru's Guru!

Ok - now I'm going to lower my test throughout the rest of my tren cycle ... "and this time I mean it!"

It's going to be like doing baby shots.

Thank's for taking the time to expand on this Det - there's a lot of great notes to be taken away from this thread!

By the way Det - if you ever put all of this info into a book or something similar ... "I'll gladly be one of your 1st customers - for sure!"

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

keep in mind your libido may go down a lil-i would taper back to the dose i wanted. just cause your use to so much test-then again it may not

 

[Stick & Move]

So does 400 test and 600 tren for 12 weeks sound right.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

yup sounds good. I might even thow some masteron in their for good measure. enanthate of course. but then again that wont help your libido issues, lol

 

[Stick & Move]

Masteron, really? How much we talking. Fuk we got eq on hand and I'm sitting on 300 10mg gp winni tabs but you guys make me want to throw that shit in the trash. Cobra is really wishing we had this info before we ran our last 2 cycles. lol

 

[Stick & Move]

I like fuking all the time but I'm getting married in August and I don't really need to have a fat prego wife so maybe this is just what I need.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Masteron, really? How much we talking. Fuk we got eq on hand and I'm sitting on 300 10mg gp winni tabs but you guys make me want to throw that shit in the trash. Cobra is really wishing we had this info before we ran our last 2 cycles. lol

yes I would have liked to know this...but either way this last cycle was fukin rediculous! Game changer lol

if you want some eq you know I got a ton of it lol (well actually you would have to pick up 10ml more )