What's the lowest test *YOU* can get away with while on Deca?

[Optimal]

Standard recommendation to avoid side effects of deca is to make sure you keep the test higher than the deca, but some people are just more lucky than others & can get away with only testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose.

What's your own experience?
Any tricks for personal experimentation with various dosage amounts/ratios? (while keeping sides to a minimum)

Note** This is just a curiosity thread, I don't plan on "experimenting" anytime soon.

 

[Austinite]

I'm not sure where this "test higher than deca" ever started, but it's nonsense. I run 150mg weekly, every week of every year, with no issues. My testosterone dose is 100 mg weekly.

 

[Optimal]

I'm not sure where this "test higher than deca" ever started, but it's nonsense. I run 150mg weekly, every week of every year, with no issues. My testosterone dose is 100 mg weekly.

Wow, good to know. Pretty low dose, is that just for the joint support? This might actually be relevant to my interests, as I will eventually go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (still a ways off though) & have had weak joints pretty much since childhood.
Have you tried occasional blasts with, say, 600deca/100 test?

 

[Austinite]

Wow, good to know. Pretty low dose, is that just for the joint support? This might actually be relevant to my interests, as I will eventually go on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) (still a ways off though) & have had weak joints pretty much since childhood.
Have you tried occasional blasts with, say, 600deca/100 test?

Yes, for joints. It's part of my testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) protocol. Almost all of my cycles have been higher doses of secondary compounds while maintaining the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose. I've done a gram of deca with 100 mg of test. It's actually better, because it's easier to control E2 and therefore; 19-nor effects are diminished.

 

[308power]

Im with Austinite. I keep deca in at 200mg a week year round. I have stayed at as low as 100mg test e, but I have better appetite with 200mg and this puts me close to 1200 ng dl

 

[Epic Ed]

I'm about a month into my most recent test/deca cycle and initially tried to run it at 500/500mg of each per week but was having some ED issues. Horny as hell but had issues getting/maintaining wood. Bumped up the test by 100mg last week and I'm good to go. This was the first time I'd ever tried to run test/deca at the same dose. I've probably run the two compounds together 6-7 times and had always had the test dose at least a little high than deca based on the advice I'd read. Turned out to be true for me.

 

[MeatHead96]

Deca gives me gyno no matter what. Tren with 100mg test and I do just fine using caber and a small dose of an AI.

 

[Ratatat]

test is garbage when it comes to putting on quality muscle. It should only be used to function properly. I never run more than 150mg test cyp.

 

[Austinite]

I'm about a month into my most recent test/deca cycle and initially tried to run it at 500/500mg of each per week but was having some ED issues. Horny as hell but had issues getting/maintaining wood. Bumped up the test by 100mg last week and I'm good to go. This was the first time I'd ever tried to run test/deca at the same dose. I've probably run the two compounds together 6-7 times and had always had the test dose at least a little high than deca based on the advice I'd read. Turned out to be true for me.

Good post Ed.

It's true that increased testosterone will certainly help with libido related issues. I tend to be able to combat that with Cialis and/or Caber should it be necessary. The ratio really doesn't matter, so long as it works safely for whoever is using it. If you manage E2 properly with higher test, you will have no problems.

 

[Austinite]

test is garbage when it comes to putting on quality muscle. It should only be used to function properly. I never run more than 150mg test cyp.

Interesting. I find that Testosterone is the ultimate compound to aid in both growth & maintenance.

 

[Ratatat]

Interesting. I find that Testosterone is the ultimate compound to aid in both growth & maintenance.

Tren does a much better job all around, and it won't turn you into a bloated mess.

They;re actually working on getting tren into script hrt..

 

[MeatHead96]

test is garbage when it comes to putting on quality muscle. It should only be used to function properly. I never run more than 150mg test cyp.

I wouldn't say that test is garbage, but personally I've been going with just running 100mg of test with other compounds such as tren, mast, eq, drol, var, etc. Easier for me to maintain lower e2 levels and stay drier.

 

[Austinite]

Tren does a much better job all around, and it won't turn you into a bloated mess.

They;re actually working on getting tren into script hrt..

Yeah I hear good things about tren. Doesn't work for me though. No response. Think I'm the only one on earth.

Yes, trenbolone has been discussed for years now in regards to HRT.

 

[Ratatat]

Yeah I hear good things about tren. Doesn't work for me though. No response. Think I'm the only one on earth.

Yes, trenbolone has been discussed for years now in regards to HRT.

It doesn't work for you? Are you sure it wasn't bunk?

Why do I feel like you're pulling my leg

 

[Austinite]

It doesn't work for you? Are you sure it wasn't bunk?

Why do I feel like you're pulling my leg

lol, not pulling your leg at all. I've used every UGL I can think of over 10 years. I just get night sweats. No benefit. No crazy pumps, no nutrient partitioning, nothing...

 

[Ratatat]

lol, not pulling your leg at all. I've used every UGL I can think of over 10 years. I just get night sweats. No benefit. No crazy pumps, no nutrient partitioning, nothing...

Wow sorry to hear that man. Although I think it's a pretty hyped compound in general. Yea it builds muscle quick, can lean you out, let's you eat a bit more than you normally would, but I personally think Sdrol is a lot stronger. In fact I think sdrol is the strongest compound I've ever tried!

 

[Austinite]

Wow sorry to hear that man. Although I think it's a pretty hyped compound in general. Yea it builds muscle quick, can lean you out, let's you eat a bit more than you normally would, but I personally think Sdrol is a lot stronger. In fact I think sdrol is the strongest compound I've ever tried!

All good. My heavy steroid use days are behind me anyway.

 

[308power]

lol, not pulling your leg at all. I've used every UGL I can think of over 10 years. I just get night sweats. No benefit. No crazy pumps, no nutrient partitioning, nothing...

If someone was to say, send you tren, in a way that wasnt illegal , that Westside Barbell uses, would you be willing to make a log on it?

 

[Austinite]

If someone was to say, send you tren, in a way that wasnt illegal , that Westside Barbell uses, would you be willing to make a log on it?

lol. Probably not man. I've logged one too many cycles with tren. It's not the gear. It's my body. The most mind boggling deal I've ever dealt with. Almost as if my body excretes the stuff immediately. I don't get it and can't find answers.

 

[308power]

Gatcha. Just throwing that out there! Really does not seem possible to me either! Some people just do not respond well to certain compounds though. Thats why we have all kinds of different antibiotics in the medical field.