Mad- scientist
Moderator
So when do you notice actual real muscle gains from Test E. Like how long tell you guys usually see like 7 pounds of actual muscle not counting water retention or fat. You know what I mean to where the top of your pecs are filling out and are hard. And your quads start expanding and calfs get bigger. And your shoulders don't fit in shirts right. Lol basically when do you guys feel like test E gains are at full blast where the muscle has been gained and is on your body. Not when you start to feel horny or get estrogen bloat. But when real muscle appears in quantity not just a pound or two but like 7 or 8 pounds. And again im talking about muscle not water bloat and fat.