When to step in and help someone?

Dickey

Dickey

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I've got a question for all you guys who aren't open about your gear use in your real lives. I haven't touched gear in a few years, and even when I only admitted it to a few people in my real life.

Anyway I was out for a drink with a few friends last night and an acquaintance who knows my friends was also there, and has been running cycles for the last couple years. The problem is he had no clue what he's doing and who ever is giving him info is an idiot. He was talking to the table about gear and here's the highlights of what he was saying:

***8226;He's been running tren E (which he thinks is short ester), primo and winny for 3 month cycles over the last 2 years
***8226;he doesn't run any test
***8226;the reason he doesn't run test is because he thinks tren, winny and primo wont shut you down, only test will do that
***8226;because he thinks only test shuts you down, he doesn't do any pct

Now he's a prick and wouldn't take my advise anyway so I wasn't gonna come out and say that I've done/have knowledge of AAS to help him but my question / talking point is let's say y'all come across someone who's this screwed up with his cycles, at what point to you blow your cover so to speak to share your knowledge and possibly save their health?
 
Just give him a friendly suggested with logic/explanation why test would benefit his cycles. If he listens or not is not your problem and you tried your best.
 
Print out the facts in good old fashioned black and white. Hand them over and just say you researched everything.
No need to tell him about your sad experience.
 
Tell him you researched deeply into the subject before because at one time you wanted to run cycles yourself. Say something like you did not do it due to the cost or something like that. Then go on to tell him about the HPTA axis and how he has shut it down, etc. Tell him if he runs test with his cycle he can greatly increase his gains for only a little more money. That type of stuff. You can even say you hesitated to mention anything but you are concerned since he is hurting himself badly.
 
Ask him how his sex life is.???? If he hesitates for a millisecond....u got him but...

If he s a prick and an ACQUANTAINCE ONLY I d not engage him. Why ? I m tired of them types. Don t blow ur cover educating him or wasting ur time or worse..., complicate ur smooth groove dude. Cyber and others are being real cool and I admire that....but I got it for f k n assholes right now.

Send him here to read stickey s and or ask for me personal like and I ll ask for a testicular diameter circumference test. ( I made that up.).
 
The unfortunate thing about situations like this is, most of the time, the individual who does need some guidance is NEVER going to listen to anyone who wants to give him some. You are a good friend in wanting to help and educate but there comes a point in time when some people just have to learn the hard way. Sounds bad but, its the way it goes sometimes. You cant help someone who doesn't want to help themselves.

Having said that though. I would be there if he does have any questions, and answer them in a way that will be helpful to him. You don't even need to admit to your personally gear usage in the past, just say you have been doing some research.
 
Shredder ur so much of how I need to be more...
( I wear h phones even when the music s not to teach 101 on anything right now....) I trust my LABRADOR
 
If hes an asshole f''k him let him destroy his body if hes been doin that for years chances are hes done irreversible damage anyways . But as for blowing your cover why do you care who knows that your doing steroids or have done them really who cares what some friend of a friend thinks true there is a lot of negativity surrounding aas use but i personally think that if people told the truth more it woudnt have such a bad stigma surrounding its use whem people realises normal people can use aas without roid rage and all the other bullshit surrounding steroid use if anyone asked me what i take have taken or whatever i would tell them and if they think less of you or call you a cheat f""k them because they havent got a clue what there talking about anyway educating people is the key here then they might not make such retarded assumptions about aas in the first place
 
blakey said:
If hes an asshole f''k him let him destroy his body if hes been doin that for years chances are hes done irreversible damage anyways . But as for blowing your cover why do you care who knows that your doing steroids or have done them really who cares what some friend of a friend thinks true there is a lot of negativity surrounding aas use but i personally think that if people told the truth more it woudnt have such a bad stigma surrounding its use whem people realises normal people can use aas without roid rage and all the other bullshit surrounding steroid use if anyone asked me what i take have taken or whatever i would tell them and if they think less of you or call you a cheat f""k them because they havent got a clue what there talking about anyway educating people is the key here then they might not make such retarded assumptions about aas in the first place
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Gotta love it^^
Anyways, your guys sounds like one of the clowns that comes on this site with some crazzy ass first cycle plan laid out and they have all the answers to life and AAS. He made his own bed, let him may in it. Doesn't sound like the type that would listen to guidance anyways.....your call, obvoiusly.
 
Let him do his thing... "He who is taught only by himself, has a fool for a master"... You can't fix stupid, especially when its supported with an ego..

I had a guy tell me once that he don't need test, because his Deca converts into testosterone... (I never spoke to that dude again)
 
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I don't discuss gear off the boards. I've got caught up in similar situations and just give generalized answers. Mostly getting bloodwork done. Otherwise, it's too risky. Too many big mouths...
 
Fair enough but why would you care who knows your taking aas this is not a rhetorical question im wondering why anybody that uses gear can usally tell just by looking at the person anyway
 
It's easy for me. I get guys ALL THE TIME that talk about cycles, and expect me to critique their plans, or start spouting off about my experiences. I don't.

I tell them that I'm on a prescribed dose of testosterone because I don't make it anymore, so I know a bit about how the stuff works, but I don't volunteer ANY information that can incriminate me. It's just not worth it, and they can give me the silent nod all they want when lifting (like a secret AAS handshake lol), but I refuse to admit it to others outside a VERY small group of close friends.

People don't realize just who is listening in, and what the potential consequences are. As long as the US still lumps AAS into the same terrible group of "dangerous" drugs as heroin and cocaine (different schedule, I know), mum's the word. ;)

My .02c :)
 
Blakely,
I know Aussie customs are tough..when I was in Perth I got to meet some of your military...but as I was...well...what s the penalty for personal use, possession ? I know in the UK u can possess.. and use...I think or ...???


IN the US..the scheduling of drug s is insanely fucked.

( And Aussie rules football or rugby or...what the ??? ) Can t figger it lol
 
oh man, there's to many people who fit in the same boat as your friend. unfortunately people like that usually wait until they learn the hard way.
 
Teutonic

First of aussie rules is crap lol nrl or footy as its called over here is the go its not much diffrent to your grid iron football . Get the ball to the othere end of the field into the goals if your team gets tackled and heldon the ground 5 times its the other sides ball and there turn to do the same thing the fowards are offence and back are denfense and u can only tackel the man with the ball its not as complicated as your version no plays or weird words and signals just run as hard as you can to the other end of the field. And yea aussie customs are a bastard they take evrey second package i order from you guys in the states i can usally get sarms but anything else is a gamble and nar you cant have it for personal use our laws are ridicules its in the same category as heroin crack all the good stuff haha if you think you guys overregulated over there come over here the laws are hectic you cant even carry a pocketknife over here lol the goverment is a total mess you cant do anything a good friend of mine had to fly 4 hours away just to get on trt !!!!!! .if your ever over this way again let me know ill put you up for a few nights
 
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