Who has done long cycles?

[Annonamous1]

Who has done long cycles?

I am talking 6 months to a year or being on without coming off or bridging. How long did you take off afterward? What were your gains like for the next cycle following the long one?

 

[iced]

when i was young and dumb, ok im still young, after my first cycle,
4 weeks of sten, then four weeks of test phenylpropionate, i decided to stay on for a while, Somewhere around 6 months. I was very uneducated, and was basically taking Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) doses, somwhere around 250mg of test or Sustanon (sust) a week. But i still gained fiarly consistently, although i crashed hard, coming offf with no nolva or clomid. When i was more educated, 3 months later, i put on a good ten pounds on a 6 week tren/prop cycle, adn got leaner to boot.

 

[STANG 98]

Re: Who has done long cycles?

I am talking 6 months to a year or being on without coming off or bridging. How long did you take off afterward? What were your gains like for the next cycle following the long one?

Bump for a good question. I just started a six-monther a week ago.

 

[BiggieSwolls]

Excluding this cycle I am on right now, my last one was a 7 monther, went right from a bulker to a cutter, but to say that I was going hardcore on the sauce for that long is incorrect and IMO that is stupid. You have to take it easy for awhile with a low dose of Test for 6-8 weeks at some points. This avoids any crash, allows you to keep the muscle which if you think about it, the longer you have the muscle and strength; the better chance you have at keeping that muscle whenever you do come off. Of course HCG/Nolva treatment should be used quite often, like every 6-8 weeks but you will find some people who like take low amounts of it every week while on such a cycle.

The bottom line is that although many people would disagree with such a long cycle, this is the way almost all amateurs and pros are dosing. So before you jump into a cycle like that, you need to weigh out everything to make sure that any potential problems you may suffer from such a cycle are known to you and you are ready for anything.

This spins me off onto another issue that I have been pondering and that is the issue of shutting down your natural test levels completely from being "on" too long. I think that it is bullshit theory. Why? That 7 month cycle I mentioned was one where I did not use any Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at all and to top it all off, at the end of the 7 months I forced to crash with nothing to help me keep gains. Dont ask why I was forced to crash I just was. And the end results was that after 4 months when I got my check up and blood levels, test levels all done by my Doctor, I came back 100%. The doctor said "Everything I see says you are a normal, healthy 24 year old young man".

Of course this is not meant to advocate long cycles with no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and no post cycle treatment but its just something to throw out there for people to ponder.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Biggie, you make a very interesting point at the end there.

With myself being on "lifetime HRT", I do not need any post cycle regime, I just allow my body to recover naturally over time after a real cycle has ended.

 

[STANG 98]

That's great to know, Biggie. You really put my mind at ease as this will be my first extended cycle. Thanx, bro!

 

[Annonamous1]

I am currently running a six month cycle. After the first 12 weeks I am cutting my test dosage from 1200mg to 250mg. Then I will just run a low test dosage of 250mg along with 16 weeks or so of eq @ 600mg.

 

[xtremethickness]

biggie,

did you lose much size when you came off without any clomid/nolva/HCG?

 

[BiggieSwolls]

Oh ya sure I did. Its a really fucked up situation that I dont want to go into detail about but I could only eat 3 meals a day that contained a maximum of 30 grams of protein in all the meals combined. Was also nowhere to train properly with weights, I did push ups when I could and some abs so that I wouldnt put on much fat with all the carbs we were fed but in the end the 35 solid pounds I had put on in those 7 months ended up going to pretty much nothing. Not all to nothing, but pretty damn close. This situation I was in lasted for 3.5 months.

Also the reason why I was able to gain that much in those 7 months is because I had just started hardcore training again after a 2 year absence from training and gear. So muscle memory played a factor into my gains. Thats just an FYI for those who think they can go "on" for 7 months and gain 35 solid pounds.

 

[needsize]

good post biggie, I'm doing the short cycle approach now, but do want to try a much longer one at some point

 

[Jyzza]

The longest I have went for was 4 months, then 5-6 weeks Off and 3 more months. My body didn’t agree w/ the second cycle. I did gain 27lbs and at the end kept 24lbs or so. I don’t know if I would do it again. If I did it would be low dosages.

 

[slobberknocker]

I just started a cycle a week ago. It will last at least 6 months. I'm keeping testosterone as a base. Currently on dbol.

I'm keeping it simple: test + an oral. I'll use dbol, drol, maybe halo.

I'm a powerlifter. I'm about 300 lbs., trying to hit 320 or so.

 

[Mudge]

Biggie, about lifetime T levels being affected, what do you think about guys doing this stuff for years on end? I have heard of a couple guys doing the 3 year deal, and never coming off during that time.

7 months is a long time, but its not years... I however also think that with tapering and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and etc that there must be a way to get things going again, I dont know that they would permanently close off, but then I'm not a doctor either.

 

[SofaGeorge]

I've been on for all but about 6 weeks of the last 14 months. I'm not really sure how much on and off before that... but running a year or so at a time is normal for me. I don't really have much plan to go off anymore.

Maybe my perspective has warped during the years, but I just don't see the advantage to going off.

 

[STANG 98]

The longest I have went for was 4 months, then 5-6 weeks Off and 3 more months. My body didn’t agree w/ the second cycle. I did gain 27lbs and at the end kept 24lbs or so. I don’t know if I would do it again. If I did it would be low dosages.

jyzza -


Exactly what do you mean that your body didn't agree with the 2nd cycle?

 

[Jyzza]

The second time around I only put on like 7-8lbs in 3 months. I could feel that my body needed a rest.+ I was on 750mg Sus 250 d-bol and at the end I threw in test enathate 200mg a week for last month and nothing. No gains.

 

[Jyzza]

I learned w/ my body that the most gains I will get is after a good time off. Then it starts to absorb juice like a magic potion, LOL. I can maintain the gained weight but if I stay on I only put on few more pounds in a month. So I see no point.
I am trying something new now. Long cycle w/ low dosages. I need to find out what my body reacts to the best.

 

[STANG 98]

So the halt in gains was attributed to overtraining and not the AS's, correct?

 

[Jyzza]

So the halt in gains was attributed to overtraining and not the AS's, correct?

Maybe bro, but I think it had more to do w/ my receptors being shut down and just not responding to anything. I new I needed a break from AS.

 

[STANG 98]

So you subscribe to the school of thought that receptors do actually shut down? I've heard conflicting stories on that issue. Still don't know what to believe myself.