why can you not use Nolva along side with 19-Nor????

808crx

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For example Deca?

This is a question I have been looking to get answered for a little while, so I figure maybe a thread would work...

Thanks!
 
from what i read, its supposed to be a clomid post cycle therapy (pct). but some people (even members on this board) claim to have recovered with nolva as a pct
 
I think its a myth. I don't think theres anything wrong with running nolva while on deca, however if you are getting gyno and it is prolactin related the nolva will do nothing for you. You would need caber or prami for that. If your getting gyno and its estro related the nolva could help stop the growth. You really would be better off using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout and at least having caber or prami on hand in case of prolactin sides.
 
There is a long a drawn out answer for this which includes a lot of medical and hormonal research. Long story short, certain hormones and ancillaries don't mix and are detrimental to what you are shooting for. I have personally aggravated Tren gyno with Nolva, so no, it's not a myth.
 
with every cycle (even test/deca cycles) I run arimidex 1mg eod, proviron 25mg ed and nolva 10mg everday... maybe just a habit, but it works ;)
 
with every cycle (even test/deca cycles) I run arimidex 1mg eod, proviron 25mg ed and nolva 10mg everday... maybe just a habit, but it works ;)

Hey china, why so high on the adex? Just curious.. Seems most people (me included) run .25ed, .25 eod, or .5eod. is it because you run high aas doses or what?
 
I think it is dependent on the individual. You'll find you probably won't even need an anti-estrogen (whether that be a SERM or AI) on cycle unless your body fat is high. I'm cutting on 750mg sus and I'm just using Proviron. If you do, order some Aromasin, it's milder than Arimidex or get yourself some Proviron. I'm loving the stuff.
 
Can anyone find the link to the supporting facts of this issue? Also, I do plan on running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (Arimidex) on cycle, I was planning on a post cycle therapy (pct) w/ Nolva, Clomid, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and IGF. But I'd like to know what to put in place of the Nolva if it won't work...

Thanks
 
Is Nolva only bad DURING a 19-nor cycle? ... Is it ok to run nolva as part of post cycle therapy (pct) AFTER a 19-nor cycle, when the steroids have cleared?
 
Is Nolva only bad DURING a 19-nor cycle? ... Is it ok to run nolva as part of post cycle therapy (pct) AFTER a 19-nor cycle, when the steroids have cleared?

Check my other post. From the sound of it, it's okay POST CYCLE, on cycle is a NO NO...
 
nolva is a receptor blocker basically so it doesnt stop the test from aromatizing it just blocks the estrogen from causing gyno but the estrogen is still there and therefore you natural test production is stopped ai's like arim stop the test from becoming estrogen so it lowers estrogen blood levels telling your body to make more test. this is really an oversimplification but it is basically the idea
 
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