I'm went from 120lbs to 185 lbs in 1.5years, recently cut down to 160 lbs 10%bf looking flat and small but lean. I have also seen bodybuilders naturals who are 180-190 lbs lean on competition and they still don't look that big an they still flat. Where as people who use aas look a lot bigger and they could be weighing less then the natty at 180 lbs. so my question is why not start taking them and get that head start on all the other competitors? Natty it take you like 8-10 years to get 200lbs 5% where as if you use gear it's more like 2 years. I myself have ran 2 cycles of prohormones. And have kept everything.
Why not take steroids at 20-21??
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Mad- scientist
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In my opinion most people who use steroids to compete usually end up with really low testosterone levels or on TRT eventually. I think that your chances of fucking up your hormones are much higher at younger ages. Also at 21 I think if bad side effects occur it is a lot harder to deal with. Lol does anyone really want to be 21 and lose their hair or have gyno. Those are some shitty problems to have at 21. Also it would be difficult to have like 4 to 6 grand saved up for gyno surgery at 21. Basically what im saying is at a young age steroids don't only have a increased risk to fuck up your natural testosterone but at a older age a person is a lot more capable of mentally and financially handling side effects that could easily occur with a cycle. I think taking steroids at a younger age also increases the chance of getting into trouble for multiple reasons.
China_Wall
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not sure where u are getting your info from, but it not anywhere near "sane"... getting to 200lbs and 5%bf is stage condition and NOT attainable by 99.9% of people that have a clue about what bodybuilding is... and NOT attainable by ANYONE in two years no matter what gear, what genetics etc you have
make attainable goals for yourself or nobody is going to be able to help you in any way...
stick around... LEARN... and then you'll start to get an idea that it's a life-long journey of improving, striving that keeps us going... not a race
cybrsage
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Even Conan the Barbarian took decades of walking around in a circle, pushing a grinding machine before he became huge. Have patience, learn how to eat properly to grow your muscles (trust me, I had no idea just how much protein was involved!!!), and let nature help you all by itself. You have probably another 60 or 70 years of life left in you, don't mess it up because you want instant gratification now.
Here's a pic of me, I could show before pic too. Big improvements I made from 120 lbs. I am however still no pleased with my physique and feel as if I still look like shit cause I want to look like a pro fitness model and shit. But yeah here yah go 160 lbs 13ish% bf
* I have a complete cycle but it's locked away cause I don't have the balls to take it lol yet*
* I have a complete cycle but it's locked away cause I don't have the balls to take it lol yet*
carverelli
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Do u even workout!??
No I eat donuts and my maxes are 255 bench, 315 squat
Southernfish
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You don't need steroids, you need to eat that food and pound those weights for a few more years
I want to compete in the NPC though. 5 years from now I'll be facing people who have been juicing for 5 years like Boston Lloyd. Could train natty forever and never look like him or Jeff seid
Southernfish
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Ya, see the thing is you might never look like either of those guys even with juice. You dont know you genetics. And dont look up to those two guys, theyre both retards, lol.
Then why aspire to be a bodybuilder? What's the point if your never gonna look how you want. I want to be 200-250 7% I wanna be massive. But the only way that is attainable is through the use of AAS I'm sorry if I'm I come off as an asshole or stubborn in just asking questions and that's te best way to learn right?
Southernfish
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No your not coming off like an asshole dude, and ya we all gotta start somewhere and learn somehow, but your are wrong in thinking that the only way to get the physique you want is through steroids. Dude, Ive been at this shit for a long time, I will tell you right now, adding steroids to what you have going on right now isn't gonna do shit, Im willing to bet they wont make you look better, probably worse to be honest. I see young guys at the gym every day who are on gear they walk around like they run the place but they look like complete shit. Why? Because they have no idea how to train, eat, and all they do is rely on the juice, they look like a water balloon. The thing with steroids is they make muscles bigger, if there isn't much muscle there, what do you think is going to happen? Nothing. Steroids are not a magic pill that all of a sudden turn you into a ripped freak. What does that? Is a strict diet, training program and YEARS and YEARS and YEARS of doing this.
You wanna aspire to be a bodybuilder? Good on ya, steroids wont magically get you there, you can believe me or not but you probably should believe me. That is the very last part in the equation to build muscle. If you put them first everything else will fall apart.
One last thing, don't look up to that Bostin Loyd character, hes a fucking moron.
Then what do you suggest I do, I feel as if my training is on point and my diet is to. I track everything, I don't drink I don't party I eat sleep work and gym everyday for almost 2 years and in my opinion. I still look like a scrawny lil bitch. I have had trainers and dietitians already. I know I'm not 120 lbs anymore and I'm bigger and stronger then before. But I see other people and they have amazing 1 year transformation and they don't track shit. Where as I put 110% I and in my eyes I barely see a difference
Southernfish
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Youre young man, 2 years of training is nothing. Building muscle is a process that doesn't happen over night, its take years upon years. and at 21 is it physically impossible to look like you want to, you muscle isn't mature enough, that come with years of dedication and age.
Stop the negative thinking, that mos def wont get you where you wanna be. Most peoples diet is NOT on point nor is there training, read and learn and apply different techniques and have fun with it and grow, and EAT goddammit EAT. And don't forget these people with these amazing transformations also have superior genetics, I had a buddy who would grow just looking at a barbell, it is what it is, learn to work with what you have and do it the best you can.
Steroids are useful but they have their place, just don't be led to believe they are the end all be all, like I said they aren't a magic trick.
Also, there is a very useful member on this forum named 3J who has helped MANY people achieve goal through his knowledge on diet, he might be worth your time.
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Left picture is me at 130 lbs never lifted or anything I look great. Picture on the right is from 10 months ago everything is popping out. I'm 148 lbs on the right pic
And then this is me as of yesterday. I look like shit and I'm about 160 lbs here almost 2 years of lifting
And then this is me as of yesterday. I look like shit and I'm about 160 lbs here almost 2 years of lifting
Southernfish
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Get a nutritionist who knows what hes doing, something tells me either you never had one or you did and he/she was an idiot or you didn't listen to them. As far as trainers go, how many people at your gym who get trained by trainers look good? I bet none. If anyone needs a trainer to motivate them to get in the gym this is the wrong place to be. These trainers at the gym, aside from a select few don't know a thing when it come to training correctly.
Educate yourself on bodybuilding and use what you've learned and build up knowledge base.
I have already hired 3j before and he helped but I can't afford to keep paying people, I'm not even close to middle class I'm rather poor. All my money goes towards food and bills. I also was getting trained by Marc lobliner and he is massive. Also there are a few competitive bodybuilders in my gym and they are big and shredded. The rest are just powerlifters.
