18 year old considering a cycle.. have been researching for a while

[masterchief1123]

My uncle is an endocrinologist and he said that as long as i've done my research and taken the proper safety precautions, there should be no problems.. his words: "young people using steroids and the risks involved are highly exaggerated, i haven't seen any problems in younger people using them if they take the proper medications after they've finished their cycle." I don't see the point in waiting 9 years to reach my genetic potential, sorry. I am 6'0 and both of my parents are below 5'10 so this is probably as tall as i'll get, have been this way for 2 years now. Just wanted some input on my cycle

Weeks 1-10:
Test E 500mg/wk


Weeks 1-12:
HCG 500iu/wk

Weeks 3-12:
Aromasin 12.5mg/day
Bump up to 25mg/day at wk 11 and 12


Weeks 13-16:
Clomid 50mg/day

uncle will be watching over me every now and then

 

[cyto33]

I'm sorry but if this is what your uncle has said to you.
Then i Decline to give advise but this.
Have your uncle watch over you and have him give you advise on the proposed cycle.

this is not meant to be rude just the way i see it.
if theres a problem he is to blam not anyone here.

 

[goatman]

what are your stats?

 

[glubgawd]

lol I don't at all believe this story about your "uncle." My wife is an endocrinologist and she would call you an idiot for considering a cycle at 18....and she's not anti-steroids....

If it makes you feel better to tell yourself that the risks aren't real - go ahead.

 

[masterchief1123]

5'11 175 11% (bod pod).. i don't care if I haven't reached my genetic potential yet. I want to enjoy a good body during the best years of my life, not during my midlife crisis. I eat 2800cals a day

and @ glubgawd, please post a study that documents one of these SuPeR HoRrIbLe risks occuring in people 25 and younger.. the risks are posted more times than people say obama is a bad president, but yet there are no documented cases of anything occuring with knowledgeable individuals all smoke and no fire

 

[blazeftp]

5'11 175 11% (bod pod).. i don't care if I haven't reached my genetic potential yet. I want to enjoy a good body during the best years of my life, not during my midlife crisis. I eat 2800cals a day

and @ glubgawd, please post a study that documents one of these SuPeR HoRrIbLe risks occuring in people 25 and younger.. the risks are posted more times than people say obama is a bad president, but yet there are no documented cases of anything occuring with knowledgeable individuals all smoke and no fire

End of the day its upto you.
Your eating 2800 calories a day......is that a joke ?

Post up your full diet and workout.

I guarantee you its all wrong.

No point in doing a cycle if you don't know the basics.

 

[masterchief1123]

End of the day its upto you.
Your eating 2800 calories a day......is that a joke ?

Post up your full diet and workout.

I guarantee you its all wrong.

No point in doing a cycle if you don't know the basics.

I choose not to eat more than that, if I do start this cycle then I will obviously up my daily food intake (i use a food scale and myfitnesspal). workout is pretty basic, monday is back/bis, wednesday is shoulders/tris and friday is legs/traps. i'll start a more complex routine if I am on cycle

and what I eat in specific varies a lot, it's mostly chicken + beef I cook at home in various ways along w/ rice and pasta, doesn't really matter to me as long as I get 2800 calories in. i limit myself to one protein shake a day, 170g protein daily is pretty average

 

[blazeftp]

So you choose not to grow.
Food=Size Food+AAS=more size

2800 calories is what an average 140lb kid eats to stop himself from starving to death.

 

[RJ]

5'11 175 11% (bod pod).. i don't care if I haven't reached my genetic potential yet. I want to enjoy a good body during the best years of my life, not during my midlife crisis. I eat 2800cals a day

and @ glubgawd, please post a study that documents one of these SuPeR HoRrIbLe risks occuring in people 25 and younger.. the risks are posted more times than people say obama is a bad president, but yet there are no documented cases of anything occuring with knowledgeable individuals all smoke and no fire

another guy looking for validation from people on the internet. Why the fuck do you need a study? Personal experience is the best.

But because you asked like a cocky little shit... here's your study:

masterchief1123's uncle is a fucking idiot and needs his medical license taken away. He also needs to stop molesting his nephew and lying to him about steroids.

Responsible Party: Dumbshit Pharmaceticals ( External Affairs )
ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT01023815 History of Changes
Other Study ID Numbers: CRAD001AIT12
Study First Received: December 1, 2009
Last Updated: December 1, 2009
Health Authority: USA: Ethics Committee

stop asking questions you don't want the answers to. No one here is gonna agree that you should take steroids. It has nothing to do with your height. And if you think it will take 9 years to reach your genetic potential (which prolly won't be much from how stupid you sound) then you are more ignorant than he is and obviously have no idea what your doing.

175lbs. Jesus Christ.

 

[masterchief1123]

another guy looking for validation from people on the internet. Why the fuck do you need a study? Personal experience is the best.

But because you asked like a cocky little shit... here's your study:



stop asking questions you don't want the answers to. No one here is gonna agree that you should take steroids. It has nothing to do with your height. And if you think it will take 9 years to reach your genetic potential (which prolly won't be much from how stupid you sound) then you are more ignorant than he is and obviously have no idea what your doing.

175lbs. Jesus Christ.

i wouldn't say that i'm that small..

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my lats are pretty high up.. they are there but not visible if I put my arms down

i neglected my arms for a while but i'm hitting them hard now and taking it easy on the chest. the pics are pretty old as you can see from the timestamps, i weighed 160 in those pics

 

[RJ]

i wouldn't say that i'm that small..

i would. i don't care if you have a good build, 175lbs at your height is wayyyy too small to be thinking about doing juice. And 18 is wayyy too young.

You have so much natty juice running thru you with the right foods you could be 225 by next year. And probably as lean. You need to eat kid... not look for shortcuts. You got all the time in the world to use juice later. Why sell yourself short and potentially fuck up your body just to be a little bigger?

 

[clickdog]

i would. I don't care if you have a good build, 175lbs at your height is wayyyy too small to be thinking about doing juice. And 18 is wayyy too young.

You have so much natty juice running thru you with the right foods you could be 225 by next year. And probably as lean. You need to eat kid... Not look for shortcuts. You got all the time in the world to use juice later. Why sell yourself short and potentially fuck up your body just to be a little bigger?

amen brother!

 

[scotimusprime]

if MY uncle was an endo i wouldnt even come on a board if i had the go ahead from him. Im a fucking oilfield worker, some of these guys on here work at k-mart, why the hell do you want our blessing?


listen to the study that RJ found. sounds like solid evidence there

 

[B-BOI]

I started at 18 just saying, and I'm fine. I also started hitting weights at 16 (160lbs) and by 18 was (191lbs) @ 5'8 that was natural.

I knew a guy that competed and he thought me some things about diet. I ate everything way more than 2800cals, that's what most people cut with.

Do what you want bro but I doubt you'll get very many answers here.

 

[Not7fifteen]

Your diet is crap, your routine is junk... "taking it east on chet and hitting the arms hard now"... I can't see your pics but I'm guessing by the sound of your posts you've never even given starting strength, ripptoes, madcow, or a solid fundamental program a try... What's your squat, bench, dead, and military? Please don't tell me you stick to machines too! Lol

 

[Not7fifteen]

iPhone is a bitch to type fast on

 

[scotimusprime]

iPhone is a bitch to type fast on

same as the ipad. i hate when it tries to fix my spelling by subsituting the wrong word.

all in all i love those little bastards tho

 

[cashout]

Guys, let's encourage this kid and perhaps thin the gene pool early before he further waters it down with his own progeny.


Regards.

 

[vtac]

Danm I wish I was 18 again. Like this kid I knew everything LMAO. Kid listen to these guys and take your time and work hard. BTW.....my 30s have just started and they are the best years of my life. You'll realize this when and if you grow up. Good luck and dont hurt yourself.

 

[Not7fifteen]

Also, after looking at the pics I don't buy that you are 5'10 and only 160 in those pics unless you're walking on toothpicks, got a leg pic? If that's really you, then you've got a great upper body to start with, get on a 5x5 program and eat about 5000cal a day and 300g protein or so and you could be pretty big in less time than you think