19 years old and retarded because i dont wanna listen to anyone

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PLEASE DO NOT LECTURE ME ON MY AGE. I KNOW VERY WELL OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT IM DOING ( I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING FOR A YEAR+) AND I HAVE TAKEN ALL PRECAUTIONS (INCLUDING A FULL CARDIAC CHECKUP) I WILL SIMPLY PUT YOU ON IGNORE IF YOU START FLAMING. THIS LOG IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY

with that said - welcome to my cycle log! I am 19 years old - 5'10 165lbs, 7% BF. i'm running PPP's test E at 500mg/wk (250mg monday and thursday) and 50mg dbol daily for a 3 and a half week kickstart. i'm also running 12.5mg aromasin/day and PCT will be 50mg clomid for 3-4 weeks

Today was my first pin and it went pretty well - 1ml into my right glute; I've always had a fear of needles but I now see how irrational that fear was - it didn't hurt a bit! The oil went in much quicker than I was anticipating , i used a 25g to inject and a 23g to draw (the drawing took longer lol) however i was pretty shaky - i tore that muscle up real good :p

anyway, i'll be training chest and triceps later today

Current weight: 166lb
diet is about 3200 cals, 180g protein (no shakes for me :) )

i'll try to finish this log completely - too many logs on this site are no longer than one page for some reason

inb4 'here we go again... another twink thinking he knows everything about everything *rolleyes*'
 
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Wil be looking forward to your results bro. I'm gonna be startin a 15 week Test E cycle soon myself.
 
Damn bro. I'm a youngin too, but I wish I had waited. If your at 165lb you've got so much room to grow, if your sitting at 165 its blatantly obvious you don't know how to diet properly. I'm not telling you to stop what your doing, or hating blah blah so don't "block" me. I say this because, I know for me personally, I wouldn't have heard otherwise from anyone. But I'm certain I could have made atleast half the gains I did natty just injecting sterile oil for placebo. Just mark my words bro, in the next couple years your going to find someone you love, and when you start thinking about kids/your future sex life and don't know whether or not to worry about your sperm count/ pre-onset ED or BP problems just remember the Cpt. America avi
 
Damn bro. I'm a youngin too, but I wish I had waited. If your at 165lb you've got so much room to grow, if your sitting at 165 its blatantly obvious you don't know how to diet properly. I'm not telling you to stop what your doing, or hating blah blah so don't "block" me. I say this because, I know for me personally, I wouldn't have heard otherwise from anyone. But I'm certain I could have made atleast half the gains I did natty just injecting sterile oil for placebo. Just mark my words bro, in the next couple years your going to find someone you love, and when you start thinking about kids/your future sex life and don't know whether or not to worry about your sperm count/ pre-onset ED or BP problems just remember the Cpt. America avi

thanks for your concerns but i do know how to diet :) it's just the waiting part that i hate.. eating all of this day in and day out, for what? 8lbs of muscle a year? i want to look impressive (in a shirt anyway) when it really matters, in my younger years
 
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Small update!

i just took a shit and it was light green! initially i had thought it was the dbol & liver poisoning (i am a hypochondriac lol) but then i googled it and found that purple koolaid will do that as well. sure enough i drank purple koolaid ( a whole liter) yesterday for the first time ever. scared the shit out of me :D

healthboards.com/boards/archive/index.php/t-56031.html

utterlyboring.com/archives/2003/11/24/looking_to_have_bright_green_poop.php

many more results on google
 
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hey man, im 20 and just finished my first Test E only cycle. Gained 25lbs, (right now in PCT) hoping to keep 15-20lbs of it. goodluck w yours
 
thanks for your concerns but i do know how to diet :) it's just the waiting part that i hate.. eating all of this day in and day out, for what? 8lbs of muscle a year? i want to look impressive (in a shirt anyway) when it really matters, in my younger years


I really agree that you should look better when it counts, i assume that you are in college.

Same for me, except i was already pretty big with very low fat level at 21. But after I stopped the cycle and school started back up after summer, girls said i was too buff. So i had to cut down again and diet down.

im in post cycle therapy (pct) right now, this shit sucks. You don't just get smaller, your muscles get flabbier but the size is still there so you look really fat.

If you want to impress other guys, get bigger by all means. But if you want to impress girls, its the look without a shirt count the most. If you wear normal to large size shirts and your muscles are bulging out, then you are too big. (me)
 
Jesus christ. No bro, if you new how to diet you wouldn't weigh 165, 3200cal is pretty fucking lame. If you want to look better to chicks show up at the end of a party when their shnockered. Either way you go about this you'll learn, and I guess it'll just have to be the hard way(when you cant take your actions back). Wait till your folks and family find out your on. I can't believe other people and mods havn't jumped on this thread....
 
Jesus christ. No bro, if you new how to diet you wouldn't weigh 165, 3200cal is pretty fucking lame. If you want to look better to chicks show up at the end of a party when their shnockered. Either way you go about this you'll learn, and I guess it'll just have to be the hard way(when you cant take your actions back). Wait till your folks and family find out your on. I can't believe other people and mods havn't jumped on this thread....

^This. Another hard-headed teenager looking for an easy way around it. 3200 calories and 180g of protein is a joke. Piss me off these kids that think they know everything. Why come on here if you have all the answers anyways.
 
^This. Another hard-headed teenager looking for an easy way around it. 3200 calories and 180g of protein is a joke. Piss me off these kids that think they know everything. Why come on here if you have all the answers anyways.

didn't ask for any input - I'm simply logging for others to see. don't like it?

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good luck with your cycle bro! let us know how it goes, guys will bash u no matter what but hey if u wanna do it and u know the ups and downs of it then i say its ur bod bro so do it! im 20!
 
if you wanna use gear thats fine.

what people are pointing out is your diet is lame. you'll end up going right back to 165 a few months after the cycle (or shorter) if you don't adjust your eating. eat like you weigh 165 and you'll look like you weigh 165. simple as that. gear will just temporarily make you look hyooge.

good luck.
 
Instead of lecturing you I'm just gonna point out you say no shakes. Why not a whey shake PWO??? Your diet is kinda sketchy but you know that by now. You spent $$$ on juice, break down and spend 30$ on some whey man, its worth it!
 
Instead of lecturing you I'm just gonna point out you say no shakes. Why not a whey shake PWO??? Your diet is kinda sketchy but you know that by now. You spent $$$ on juice, break down and spend 30$ on some whey man, its worth it!



I've never really known if the shakes are really what they say they are - you could be drinking pure nesquik for all you know. And the diet thing - I am at SEVEN PERCENT DIETED DOWN.
 
I've never really known if the shakes are really what they say they are - you could be drinking pure nesquik for all you know. And the diet thing - I am at SEVEN PERCENT DIETED DOWN.
A theory like that holds no water man, and sounds ridiculous. That would be like saying any OTC drug could be a lie, because you don't actually know what it is. If you've been doing research for 1+yr you would have gained the sense to learn that protein is real...As for what that other guy said and puffing up then coming down off cycle and losing it all, with a diet like that, you won't gain at all homes. You'll just stick around the exact weight your at, granted you'll add some water on the dbol. Man there are just ALOT of things wrong with this thread that are completely unrelated to your age. The only reason you did this was to create a shitstorm, "informational purposes" what a joke. Just understand that the stuff you wont be able to document is the stuff thats actually important ( pre-onset ED, possible infertility, jacked up lipid profiles, high bp that won't go away even off cycle). Seeing as your 19, how long have you been in this BB'ing game and what weight were you when you started?
How tall are you?
He's 5 10' Blondie, looking hot in your avi, I can see a difference since I've last been on the boards.
 
Hey bro Goodluck. I am in my Test C 500 a wekk and Anavar cycle myself. I do have one thing to say

I have been eating around 3200 cal and 200g of protein and i have aken myself to as high as 195 punds o as low as 172 lbs how in the hell you are only 165lbs with all that food and protein.

Hopefully with gear you will actually exercise hard enough to have results and you should add shakes in hey are the fastest way o get protein to your muscles specially whey.

Good luck and will follow your cycle. Oh and i think you should lower your aromasin. You need estrogen in body for normal health purposes and wih gear you want maximum gain it will hinder you gains at this dose. Just my 2 cents
 
Too Young......................PERIOD.

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Anabolic steroids promote strength gain, muscle synthesis, and increased metabolic capacity. Their responsible, moderate use improves athletic performance, cosmetic appearance, and perceived social opportunity and self-esteem. However, anabolics achieve their effects by perturbing the human endocrine system, a complex feedback mechanism of glands and organs that are, in healthy and youthful persons, in an exquisite state of natural balance. Compounds like anabolic steroids that alter this balance are appropriate for use only by mature, well-trained athletes who understand these drugs, their risks and their benefits. Except in the case of prospective users of clear promise for national or international ranking in a sport, realistically hopeful for the kinds of benefits such ranking confers, the following should be characteristic of anyone, of any age, prior to the addition of anabolic steroids to a training regime:


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Wow!! No post workout shake y? It is typical for a weight lifter to do that. Your just young n dumb. N for you other 20 year olds its not cool to floss that your juicing. Don't lean other young kids to do it.
 
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