30days Test suspension+Proviron?

[JuicyJuggalo]

JJ, what is the brand of the suspension you have? or home brewed?

This thread has me considering swapping out prop at the end for suspension in my next run. Last batch I had needed an 18 gauge to draw it out! that sucked. Believe it or not some of the vet grade suspension out of Mexico was really decent years ago.

There is always TNE as an option but that takes a quality chemist or lab to make right.

I'm just considering getting some GP Test suspension(IF I can really trust napg) because I already have about 30mL of NPP 100mg/mL on hand left over from my last SE cycle. I was just trying to come to better conclusions about how to dose Test suspension100mg/mL with beginning this thread.

I think using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the 1st time helped recovery in my last cycle tremendously but IDK where else to get it and I definitely will not cycle again without it. Last time I bought a 10,000 IU kit from a European pharmaceutical escrow company who was giving away discounted trials for weight loss. Which is really funny because I have been found/told I am clinically obese on various occasions (as I'm 10-12% body fat) Because I'm 5'7" and on paper, I have to be 135-150lbs to be healthy so since I'm 190lbs, I'm 40lbs overweight and I was considered a great candidate for the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) weightloss trial this company had last year.

 

[essays]

I'm just considering getting some GP Test suspension(IF I can really trust napg)

Personally, I wouldn't trust anything GP branded, and I'm not a big fan of naps for non-GP branded gear either... I've got a bunch of vials of GP test that I'm fairly sure are just cottonseed oil, and a few packets of SERMS that I'm not sure are legit either. Seem to get much better effect from research chems, that's for sure.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

I appreciate the heads up, good lookin out. I had been asked to become a rep for naps at one point but I hear so much damn negative feed back on em I couldn't in good conscience, represent such products. I still believe they do sell g2g legit stuff, just maybe some of it is tampered with or expired for some odd circumstantial reason possibly.

Besides, the one ("G") source other a street hustler buddy I have gotten from, blew my conceptions of price and quality clear out of the water. There's nothing like the feeling of getting $2500 street value worth of gear for about 10% of that amount. Instead of getting 10mL quantities, getting 60mL. Leaves a lot of room to do cycles right, with GH peptides, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) thru out and a fully encompassed PCT

 

[UserAt204]

Sorry if this was covered but I didn't read all of it. Juicy I like your style, you always go full force.

A couple things, suspension is going to have a rediculous amount of estro conversion. T levels spike so fast the and the body can only respond by creating aromtase. Then T levels will drop but aromatase won't. I see you plan to add letro. Aromisin is still a better choice because if it's suicidal inhibition. If you stop letro then it just detaches from the receptor and an rebound of estro is more likely to occur.

If you have to, run 50mg a day of aromisin but I don't think you will need all that.

Even with twice a day dosing, you will have fluctuation in t levels. 3 x a day would be more stable but I wouldn't go that far. Use two but be ready to manage sides.

The benefits to this are fast results, you will likely have a good boost dosing an hour before training. You can stop immediately if it becomes to much trouble. You will be able to start pct immediately.

As Dawg noted your dosing is high. You actually get more hormone from suspension because there is no ester weight but most often those differences are negligible.

Your T levels won't get as high as a regular E/C cycle because they won't be building, it will just be up and down so let's say at peak you typically have a 6000ng/dl on cyp, you are likely looking at 900-1200 on suspension. This is just a guess on my part but you just don't have the build up of total T.

I would start the proviron a little early to lower SHBG right from the start and maybe start aromisin as well because it can take up to 7 days to be effective.

I personally have never ran a suspension only cycle. I have ran suspension with nothing else but 1 shot a day for two weeks hardly constitutes a cycle. I didn't know what I was doing and it was crippling. By the 5th day I really had a hard time trying to decide where to inject because I was so beat up.

This probably won't be the case for you as I know of two brands of suspension that were painless but I don't have access to them now and shortly Spartan will have one and I'm sure it will be painless(only point in making it).

I'm interested to see how this works but to me, short fast gains are the most difficult to hang onto. It seems at that time those gains are only there because of the hormone elevation. It's like a safer (on libido) comparison to a dbol only cycle.

But I know juicy likes to experiment and has some experience. I would probably decrease the dose to 50mg per shot. I think any suspension at 150 may be painful just by volume of hormone releasing but could be wrong. Or even 75mg per inject twice a day.

Start low and see how you respond and then decide if you need to bump it.

Good luck.

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

how long cycle u did

Last cycle this past summer of "G" brand stuff, I did 15mL of test acetate at 150mg/EoD, NPP at 100mg/EoD, then 20mL of test enanthate at 300mg/ twice a wk, then the remaining 15mL of test ace at 150mg/EoD til finished, SO around 4 months total I think.

Otherwise I've been thru 8 cycles in 8 years now.. Not much of shit to show for thousands and thousands of dollars worth of steroids, nearly a decade of use, other than a mid-normal range of natural test at 675ng/dl where as at 21 before AAS my test was at 420ng/dl. I attribute to being only cuz I always took 9months-one year OFF between cycles and tried everything I could to boost my natural test while OFF cycles..

 

[JuicyJuggalo]

-Userat204;
Thanx for the input bro! I truly respect your knowledge and experience, alot! I'm just kicking the idea around because the gains from that acetate cycle last summer is hell to hold on to. Want to revamp back up my muscular volume but I'm thinking more juice aint the answer. Especially NE-Test/suspension.. I just like the idea of being able to pack on the muscle of my normal 3month cycle gains in just one-2 months but If it's harder to keep than acetate ester cycles, FUCK IT! Still thinking about it but my wife HATES the idea and would leave me if I got on some more AAS which aint worth that temporary muscle size

 

[UserAt204]

Juicy it may be fine for you brotha. I just can't hold gains I make to fast for some reason. I always gain slow on cycles but it works well for me. I know other guys who gain very fast on cycle and do well hanging on to it. So it's an individual thing.

Again I've never ran a real suspension cycle so I'm just guessing at most of this. I could be way off. I think it may be fun to try. I have stayed away from suspension because all I had years ago was too painful but I know it's being made painless now so I will try some again soon. I'll probably try it pre wo first. I'm pretty gyno prone and assume this will cause a big flare but again just assumption.

It's been so long since I've used it, I can't remember how it effected me. Just be smart with it if you use it and the best part is you can just stop if it's not working out the way you want or keep some prop/E or C around and switch over if you need to.

 

[hamidgs]

i am , sorry but one last thing do the winstrol or deca iran look familiar of fake ?

what the brand name of deca

 

[UserAt204]

Umm actuall total and free test are important. The actual number is not, because that is dependent on the person but test won't be elevated after post cycle therapy (pct) unless lh and fsh are working.